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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

      Posit: if you can understand why abstract sound patterns in minor key sound "sad" (and "happy" for major key), you are 17% of the way to understanding how abstraction works -- and 17% would be earth-shattering progress

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

      And by the way, this is not cultural conditioning, nor is it caused by the acoustics of emotional speech

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        2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

          Ofc the minor/major key example is just one specific instance of a more general phenomenon. What's interesting is the general case: abstract sound patterns can evoke emotions (or thoughts) in a way that is not associative. This non-associativeness is the essence of abstraction.

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        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

          In visual terms: a musical pattern evokes an emotion/thought not because you've heard it before and were conditioned to associate it with the emotion (that would be pattern recognition, not abstraction), but because you process it as having the same *shape* as the emotion/thought

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        4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

          The notion of the shape of a thought or emotion, and the existence of classes of such shapes (thought topology, rather than thought geometry) is the essence of abstraction.

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        5. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 9 Feb 2018

          This turns out to be mathematically expressible in terms of a framework that you could call "information topology"

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        1. Alexander‏ @archeofuture 9 Feb 2018
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          It’s all math in your brain anyway

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        2. Bry Davidson‏ @BrysonDave 9 Feb 2018
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          I think it's a conditionning but much closer to the entire history of hearing than our cultures.

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        1.  🍍Tommaso Sciortino 🥑‏ @TommSciortino 9 Feb 2018
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          Umm.. I was under the impression that the "cultural conditioning" question was at the very least still undecided. What make you so certain that's not it?

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        1. Elia Robyn Lake‏ @r_speer 9 Feb 2018
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          In before handwavey just-so explanations involving the overtone series

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        1. Timothy Rue‏ @AbstractionPhys 9 Feb 2018
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          Here though there are exceptions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNzll84SXgo …

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