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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Feb 2018

    When approaching a new problem, by focusing on easy wins you can sometimes deliver 20% of the results with 1% of the effort. The trap is to extrapolate that the problem will be fully solved if you work on it just 5x longer. Widely applicable to AI successes...

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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Feb 2018

        In 1954, IBM managed to do successful machine translation of ~60 Russian sentences into English, using a small set of heuristic rules. Many believed machine translation would be solved in a matter of years. The less you understand about a problem, the more powerful this fallacy

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      1. p-brane‏ @BraneRunner 8 Feb 2018
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        Sometimes it’s enough to be approximately right (better than to be exactly wrong!)

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      1. Sourav Nandi‏ @souravstat 8 Feb 2018
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        Excellent viewpoint, Francois! As you mentioned, This is especially true for AI as blackbox algorithms has to go a long way before being truely "intelligent".

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      1. Stephanie Kirmer‏ @data_stephanie 8 Feb 2018
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        I see this every day in the space of modeling mechanical failures. You can capture 80% of the failures with quick work, but catching the remaining 20% is a grind. Cost benefit analysis has to be in mind when deciding where/when to make that effort.

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      1. John Gordon MD‏ @jgordonshare 8 Feb 2018
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        I remember how well speech recognition worked in 80s. Took another 30y.

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      1. Mister D‏ @CallMeMisterD 8 Feb 2018
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        The first 80% of anything is the easy bit

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      1. Timothy Rue‏ @AbstractionPhys 8 Feb 2018
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        80/20 rule - 80% of output is achieved w/ 20% of effort. The remaining 20% of output takes the remaining 80% of effort. The origin of "Devil is in the details". W/ history of resources & finances lacking AI industry pushed hard to do the 20% to show results, hence black box proof

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      1. stonebig..‏ @stonebigdotdot 8 Feb 2018
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        The new 20/1980 rule. 20/80 rule applies only for physical problems ?

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      1. Dave Grundgeiger‏ @davegrundgeiger 8 Feb 2018
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        Indeed it may even be more than 100x longer, based on what you built to achieve that 20%. One can lengthen the overall timeline by building a simplistic structure around the easy wins.

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      1. Luke Oakden-Rayner‏ @DrLukeOR 8 Feb 2018
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        The even more subtle trap is to assume that solving 20% of the task isn't valuable. Most of the time, it is better to just stop there and move on to solving 20% of another task. Widely applicable to AI successes.

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