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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 28 Jan 2018

      François Chollet Retweeted Gary Marcus

      It would be neat to keep a list around a list of "simple problems where neural nets can't learn a generalizable solution, even with lots of training data". There are many of them, and they could serve as a benchmark for future progress.https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/957685727969660929 …

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      Gary Marcus @GaryMarcus
      Another blunder for simple neural nets, this time in language, _exactly_ as anticipated by Marcus 2001. Sure it can be remedied but casts clear lens on a serious underlying problem that @fchollet and I have been trying to call attention to. By @bpricket https://scholarworks.umass.edu/ics_owplinguist/2/ …
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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 28 Jan 2018

      The gist of it is this: neural nets do *pattern recognition*, which achieves *local generalization* (which works great for supervised perception). But many simple problems require some (small) amount of abstract modeling, which modern neural nets can't learn

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        2. DoomscrollPro‏ @DoomscrollPro 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Can Capsule Networks form part of a solution to address the need for abstract modeling?

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        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @DoomscrollPro

          As far as I can tell, no. Capsules address limitations of CNNs but do not address the overarching limitations of deep learning.

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        1. Nicholas Guttenberg‏ @ngutten 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Here's one: train a dense net, an RNN, and an OptNet to evaluate y=x^2 far from the training data (scalar and digit representations). Then try y=sqrt(x). Wildly different generalization regions.

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        1. Dave Hodder‏ @dvhdr 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Applies to most humans too.

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        2. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          The biggest problem with deep neural nets is that they cannot see things that they have not been trained on, a serious flaw. The brain, by contrast, can instantly see complex objects it has never seen before. It does not even learn complex patterns. It learns to see the world.

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        3. Andreas Kolshorn‏ @AKolshorn 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @RebelScience @fchollet

          Actually it seems like the brain classifies new objects or scenes into kind of a friend or degrees of foeness default bucket.

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        1. Tau-Mu Yi‏ @socalsysbio 28 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet @benedictevans

          If you frame the abstract modeling problem as a classification problem and collect some data, then why can't modern neural nets learn.

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        1. Mohammed Christus‏ @MohammedChristu 28 Jan 2018
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          Pattern recognition IS some kind of generalization, although it is stuck within the spatial domain for the nets. They need context as a meta-layer and do the "pattern-recognition" then. Perhaps, multimodal input could help, just like in humans...

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