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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 28 Jan 2018

    François Chollet Retweeted Gary Marcus

    It would be neat to keep a list around a list of "simple problems where neural nets can't learn a generalizable solution, even with lots of training data". There are many of them, and they could serve as a benchmark for future progress.https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/957685727969660929 …

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    Gary Marcus @GaryMarcus
    Another blunder for simple neural nets, this time in language, _exactly_ as anticipated by Marcus 2001. Sure it can be remedied but casts clear lens on a serious underlying problem that @fchollet and I have been trying to call attention to. By @bpricket https://scholarworks.umass.edu/ics_owplinguist/2/ …
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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 28 Jan 2018

        The gist of it is this: neural nets do *pattern recognition*, which achieves *local generalization* (which works great for supervised perception). But many simple problems require some (small) amount of abstract modeling, which modern neural nets can't learn

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      1. christoph.burgdorf.eth  🌍 🇪🇺‏ @cburgdorf 28 Jan 2018
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        I was surprised to see how hard it is to teach Fizz Buzz if the goal is to generalize so well that it can predict any number correctly with 100 % accuracy

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      2. Ronnypetson‏ @Ronnypetson_SS 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @fchollet

        How can an ANN with activation functions like Sigmoid, ReLU, and tanh approximate functions with high local variations in value? Take the function f(x) = exp(x) and an ANN with any of the mentioned activation functions. How could it work?

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      3. Alessandro‏ @volcacius 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @Ronnypetson_SS @fchollet

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_approximation_theorem …

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      2. Nick‏ @NickRhymesWitMc 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @fchollet

        Could it be that Deep Learning is just brute force memorization as Zhang et. al (2017) concludes? Thus, they are not learning a generalization but just memorizing a statistical pattern that generalizes well?

        2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      3. Nick‏ @NickRhymesWitMc 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @NickRhymesWitMc @fchollet

        I thought of it as taking a standardized test. You can practice a certain type of questions over and over until you basically memorize a certain problem and solution (aka recognize a simple question pattern and solution) to do well on that type of question and others similar

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      2. Yann LeCun‏ @ylecun 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @fchollet

        Among all 2^2^n Boolean functions of n variables, almost none is "learnable" or susceptible to generalization, regardless of the method. Any family of functions can only learn an exponentially small # of functions with a less-than-exponentially large # of samples.

        7 replies 14 retweets 86 likes
      3. Dan Roy‏ @roydanroy 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @ylecun @fchollet

        Technically, every _one_ of the 2^2^n boolean functions is learnable. It's classes of functions which are not learnable. Most of the 2^2^2^n subsets of the space of boolean functions are not learnable. In particular, the class of all boolean functions is not learnable.

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      2. Jeremy Kun‏ @jeremyjkun 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @fchollet

        Any ideas off the top of your head? I have been experimenting with simple examples of problems from number theory that neural nets fail at solving.

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      3. Johan Ugander‏ @jugander 28 Jan 2018
        Replying to @jeremyjkun @fchollet

        A paper I saw recently that looks at a difficult interesting toy problem: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02301 

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