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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Jan 2018

      Most routine tasks that everyone can do are impossible to automate with current ML technology, even after spending millions of dollars to collect training data

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    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Jan 2018

      Although "impossible to automate with ML" doesn't mean "impossible to automate". I'd say most things are still automatable -- by having human engineers handcraft complex software to handle each task. Which can be enhanced with ML, if need be

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Jan 2018

      An example of this is Facebook discarding its M assistant project. The plan was to start with a Wizard of Oz, and collect tons of queries (with the steps to answer them), to eventually train a supervised model to answer the most common queries. Sounds clever, but it doesn't work

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 8 Jan 2018

      Another example is self-driving. You can automate driving, but not with an end-to-end ML system. The variability of real-world situations just cannot be handled by a system that merely pattern-matches with the past

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        1. John‏ @John7Istheman 8 Jan 2018
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          At least not until some/most cars are networked and connected to cloud. This would provide a metric variable that would essentially guarantee autonomy.

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        1. Paul‏ @yousentwhohome 8 Jan 2018
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          Rule based systems are adequate for most decision support/automation. Advanced methods are useful esp an ensemble of different learners for the rest.

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        2. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 8 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Very true. The brain does not learn complex patterns. It can instantly see and understand a new pattern that it has never seen before. In fact, almost everything it sees is new. It will not remember a pattern unless it is rehearsed many times.

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        3. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 8 Jan 2018
          Replying to @RebelScience @fchollet

          This is why the late Hubert Dreyfus was fond of saying that the brain does not model the world. It senses it directly. The world is its own model. Unless our machines can do the same, we will not solve the AGI problem.

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        1. marcos‏ @frontiernomad 8 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          i agree that its often hard to do e2e, but often you can break the problem down into a set of roughly independent simpler tasks (simple enough for ML) that in aggregate give you something close enough to the e2e

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        2. Denny Britz‏ @dennybritz 8 Jan 2018
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          Not sure if I agree with the self-driving. Given a sufficiently good simulator, which I don’t think is impossible to build, I could imagine generating almost infinite amounts of data not seen in the past that cover the whole space.

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        3. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 8 Jan 2018
          Replying to @dennybritz @fchollet

          Otavio Good showed off a remarkably impressive simulator at the recent O'Reilly AI conference in SF. There's a video available online if you're interested. Used a clever adversarial modeling approach for data augmentation. It covered just one track, but the idea could be expanded

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        1. gui larange‏ @glarange72 8 Jan 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Little reality check is healthy and long overdue.

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        1. Jesper @  🏡‏ @jandersen 8 Jan 2018
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          In the end, ML just arbitrages computation and data cost against developer cost and in many cases developers are still cheaper than the necessary computation and data.

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        1. subcomandante brian‏ @snagglechud 9 Jan 2018
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          it is a good thing then that the methods which will win out cannot be characterized as supervised pattern-matches.

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