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    1. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @trengarajan @fchollet

      Reread his claim. You haven't addressed it

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @trengarajan

      Re-read the tweet and think about it for a while. It's not a far-fetched claim, it's almost a tautology, and could be generalized to almost any technology. I know you're a Singularity believer though, so I won't try to convince you

      3 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @fchollet @trengarajan

      I'm not sure why you think I'm a Singularity believer. I just said in my tweet that the negative of your claim can't be known to be true.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @fchollet @trengarajan

      All I'm saying is something simple and not controversial : you can not prove the absence of a path from point A to point B without knowing the path to point B.

      2 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
    5. Joseph Friedman‏ @DecentGradient 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @fchollet @trengarajan

      I didn't read François tweet as stating definitively that (if there ever is ) AGI will have no path from AI as we know it, rather that we currently have no clear path.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @DecentGradient @dLinNYC and

      I certainly agree with that. But the tweet said "there is no practical path". Not "we don't currently know of a path"

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @dLinNYC and

      I think a lot of people are wasting time trying to invent AGI, rather than solve practical problems. Telling people that solving practical problems can't help with general intelligence discourages people from working on practical problems

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Joseph Friedman‏ @DecentGradient 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @fchollet @trengarajan

      Ah, now I see your concern. François' word choice aside I think he's in the same camp as you with regards to people wasting time. I think all non-hype people agree that solving practical problems is how to move forward. If a divergent path to AGI becomes apparent in the future...

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    9. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @DecentGradient @dLinNYC and

      I think so too

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    10. Denny Britz‏ @dennybritz 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @dLinNYC and

      I also think that both of you actually agree. The word choice is far from ideal, but I interpret his tweet as saying that we know to little lay out a path to AGI, not that there will never emerge a path. I.e. you can only see the path looking backward, not forward ;)

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 27 Dec 2017
      Replying to @dennybritz @jeremyphoward and

      I do agree with this very reasonable view and I actually express it regularly 🤔

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        2. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 27 Dec 2017
          Replying to @fchollet @dennybritz and

          As do I

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        3. Stefan Wild‏ @stefanwild 27 Dec 2017
          Replying to @jeremyphoward @fchollet and

          I’m curious (not sarcastic): How many of you all actually have toddlers around them on a regular basis?

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