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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Oct 2017

    When we start teaching it, "math" means using your mind as a computer, which isn't fun. But as you go further, it looks more like humanities

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      1. Chris Hodapp‏ @Hodapp87 23 Oct 2017
        Replying to @fchollet

        Have you read read Mindstorms by Seymour Papert? He had some excellent insight into the teaching of math vs. "school math".

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      2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Oct 2017
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        Surveying the ideas of those that came before, and using them to build up your own ideas, one step at a time.

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      1. Spacecore‏ @SpaceCore1701 23 Oct 2017
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        My Prof once called math the only true example of humanities, since it's the only science that can completely be derived by the human mind.

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      2. Bryan McCann‏ @BMarcusMcCann 23 Oct 2017
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        Common attitude of K-12 teachers: if you like it, then you’ll persevere and get to the good stuff. Seems like a bad pedagogical premise.

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      3. Bryan McCann‏ @BMarcusMcCann 23 Oct 2017
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        Teaching rules without the conceptual foundation that gives them meaning leads many to see math as merely a collection of unmotivated tools.

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      1. Rishu‏ @rmoh01 23 Oct 2017
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        Foundations can be boring to learn; the 'aha' moments come when you connect what you've learned before to prove what you're learning now.

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      1. Rishu‏ @rmoh01 23 Oct 2017
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        This is also true for computer programming.

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      1. Rishu‏ @rmoh01 23 Oct 2017
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        I think this can be extended as a generalization: learning anything new can be boring/tedious, but later on, it becomes interesting.

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      1. Howard‏ @howardzail 23 Oct 2017
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        Advanced math is more like learning grammar than learning humanities

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