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Deep learning @google. Creator of Keras. Author of 'Deep Learning with Python'. Opinions are my own.

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    1. Andreas Mueller‏ @amuellerml 12 May 2016

      Andreas Mueller Retweeted

      Wow scraped data from @okcupid, then published without any attempt to anonymize. IRB anyone? Ethics board? Tos? https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/730571869854814208 …

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      2 replies 29 retweets 28 likes
    2. (((ل()(ل() 'yoav)))) 👾‏ @yoavgo 12 May 2016
      Replying to @amuellerml

      I can see the ToS legal argument, but what's the ethics issue? how is that different from analyzing, say, political tweets?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Andreas Mueller‏ @amuellerml 12 May 2016
      Replying to @yoavgo

      the research claims to be psychological, the subjects didn't consent, and are identifiable.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Tal Linzen‏ @tallinzen 12 May 2016
      Replying to @amuellerml @yoavgo

      people have different expectations of privacy (and deniability) on okcupid than on twitter

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Andreas Mueller‏ @amuellerml 12 May 2016
      Replying to @tallinzen @yoavgo

      I guess there are two questions:1.is the research ethical and 2. Is publishing scaped data ethical.Clear no on 1 at least

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. (((ل()(ل() 'yoav)))) 👾‏ @yoavgo 12 May 2016
      Replying to @amuellerml @tallinzen

      really? my intuition was that *maybe* there is a problem with (2), def not with (1).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Andreas Mueller‏ @amuellerml 12 May 2016
      Replying to @yoavgo @tallinzen

      all research on human subjects needs to needs informed consent. Not sure how tweet data gets around that

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. (((ل()(ل() 'yoav)))) 👾‏ @yoavgo 12 May 2016
      Replying to @amuellerml @tallinzen

      even when it is purely observational and non-intrusive? why?

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    9. (((ل()(ل() 'yoav)))) 👾‏ @yoavgo 12 May 2016
      Replying to @yoavgo @amuellerml @tallinzen

      there is medical research that scraps online med forums to find unknown drugs/side-effects pairs. also unethical?

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    10. Andreas Mueller‏ @amuellerml 12 May 2016
      Replying to @yoavgo @tallinzen

      I'm not an expert, I'll research it. I though informed consent was required.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 12 May 2016
      Replying to @amuellerml @yoavgo @tallinzen

      in order to make publicly available data... publicly available?

      7:25 AM - 12 May 2016
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        1. Ari Morcos‏ @arimorcos 12 May 2016
          Replying to @fchollet @amuellerml and

          OkCupid themselves perform analyses on user data that are made public

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        2. Ari Morcos‏ @arimorcos 12 May 2016
          Replying to @fchollet @amuellerml and

          So it would seem the q is did users consent to OkC running analyses but not third-parties

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        3. Ari Morcos‏ @arimorcos 12 May 2016
          Replying to @arimorcos @fchollet and

          This is independent of the anonymization issue, which is clearly wrong.

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