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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      François Chollet Retweeted Gavin Cawley

      Great question! Yes, theoretically you can use a learned parametric curve (such as a DL model) to extrapolate outside of the training zone. But will this be meaningful, i.e. will it lead to generalization? Well, there are two possible settings.https://twitter.com/Gavin_Cawley/status/1450726111957209093 …

      François Chollet added,

      Gavin Cawley @Gavin_Cawley
      Replying to @fchollet
      but I would have you can also extrapolate on the learned manifold beyond the area where the data live? As it is a learned manifold (we don't know the real one) it might not be reasonable out there.
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    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      The ideal case: if your model structure is shaped by a sufficiently strong prior, you'll be able to extrapolate. In this case it's your prior knowledge that "transports you" from your known areas to novel areas. You need to know what the data manifold is supposed to look like!pic.twitter.com/TBi5h8SUYq

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      However, if you don't have such a prior, you are limited to local, interpolative generalization. You don't have sufficient information about the structure of the latent manifold to meaningfully walk out of the known area.pic.twitter.com/MNIM1D0VRG

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    4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      In practice, we encode priors in deep learning models in two ways: 1. Architecture patterns (e.g. convolution, recurrence, attention...) 2. Data augmentation (random-yet-valid input variations) They represent assumptions about the structure of your latent manifold.

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    5. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      Unfortunately, the kind of prior knowledge we inject in this way is very weak compared to the complexity and unpredictability of most real-world datasets. As a result, deep learning models cannot meaningfully extrapolate except on very simple problems (special cases).

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    6. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      Your DL-only domestic robot won't be able to make sense of a new kitchen layout. Your DL-only self driving car won't be able to train itself in Berlin then drive in London, etc.

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    7. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      Your model priors can't make that jump -- not even close. They can barely move you from "here's this scene" to "here's the same scene but a bit cloudy".

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    8. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      (Note: you could achieve this type of local, mini-extrapolation either via a brightness normalization step or via data augmentation, both of which encode prior knowledge about the characteristics of the visual world.)

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    9. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      Meanwhile, a trivial example of meaningful extrapolation would be the case of a linear dataset. If your data fits on a line, *and* you make the strong (and correct) assumption that it fits on a line, then you can use your learned model to extrapolate outside of the training zone.

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    10. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      But in most practical settings, the answer is no, you can't extrapolate. If you want models that can extrapolate in the real world, you should move away from differentiable curves and use… discrete search over graphs of logical operators (programs). This is for another thread...

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20

      Also, if these topics sound interesting to you, remember -- there's this book you can grab.https://www.manning.com/books/deep-learning-with-python-second-edition?a_aid=keras&a_bid=76564dff …

      10:19 AM - 20 Oct 2021
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        1. Bart‏ @barthk12 Oct 20
          Replying to @fchollet

          Just updated my MEAP for the final version...

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        2. Srikar‏ @urstrulyGS Oct 20
          Replying to @fchollet

          Thanks for this thread. Good insights. Is this book as math heavy as Deep Learning by Ian Goodfellow and others?

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        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20
          Replying to @urstrulyGS

          In fact, there's no math notation in it at all! I explain various math concepts using Python code snippets instead.

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        2. Andrew‏ @andrew__rivers Oct 20
          Replying to @fchollet

          Hey François, is this printed in color?

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        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Oct 20
          Replying to @andrew__rivers

          Yes, it is, with color-highlighted code.

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        1. Manuel Fernández‏ @Manu_Fernand Oct 20
          Replying to @fchollet

          How did I enjoy the first edition!

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        1.  😷 Gregory void★ Pakosz  💉 💉‏ @gpakosz Oct 22
          Replying to @fchollet

          As the owner of the 1st edition, what should I expect from the 2nd one?

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