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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Jun 13

    "Every time I fire a linguist, the performance of the speech recognizer goes up" (Frederick Jelinek, 1998)

    6:56 PM - 13 Jun 2021
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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Jun 13

        Quoted in:https://www.manning.com/books/deep-learning-with-python-second-edition?a_aid=keras&a_bid=76564dff …

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      2. Eric Fosler-Lussier‏ @EricFos Jun 13
        Replying to @fchollet

        Fred came around eventually while at JHU.

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      3. Eric Fosler-Lussier‏ @EricFos Jun 13
        Replying to @EricFos @fchollet

        And now that I think of it, that quote was certainly much earlier than 1998 because we were talking about that at the 1996 workshop. Didn’t he say that while still at IBM?

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      1. Steve Simpson‏ @SharplyUnclear Jun 13
        Replying to @fchollet

        Wikipedia says exact date (and indeed the quote itself) are uncertain but could have been ‘85 or ‘88

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      1. thelousylinguist‏ @lousylinguist Jun 13
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        Uhm... tweeted by a man who works at the world's leading tech employer of linguists. Can you say "irony"?

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      2. thelousylinguist‏ @lousylinguist Jun 13
        Replying to @fchollet

        FYI, here is Hal Daume basically refuting this quote https://nlpers.blogspot.com/2010/09/very-sad-news.html?m=1 …

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      3. Yuval Pinter  ➡️  🏠 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧‏ @yuvalpi Jun 14
        Replying to @lousylinguist @fchollet

        Yuval Pinter  ➡️  🏠 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧 Retweeted Yuval Pinter  ➡️  🏠 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧

        not quite the refutationhttps://twitter.com/yuvalpi/status/1404440167453167617 …

        Yuval Pinter  ➡️  🏠 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧 added,

        Jelinek, 2005. Quote:
"I have hoped for many years that this quote was only apocryphal, but at least two reliable witnesses have recently convinced me that I really stated this publicly in a conference talk."
        Yuval Pinter  ➡️  🏠 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧 @yuvalpi
        Replying to @RemivanTrijp
        Jelinek didn't "deny" it, more like repented. pic.twitter.com/tLkKHGQatO
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      2. Tony Robinson‏ @DrTonyRobinson Jun 13
        Replying to @fchollet

        The apocryphal quote was definitely much earlier than 1998. I have it on good authority (@ProfSteveYoung) that Fred never said it.

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      3. Eric Fosler-Lussier‏ @EricFos Jun 14
        Replying to @DrTonyRobinson @fchollet @ProfSteveYoung

        Thanks for confirming. I think that Fred had denied it in the 1996 conversation but I don’t remember clearly so I didn’t want to claim.

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      1. mzeid4real‏ @mzeid4real Jun 13
        Replying to @fchollet

        It is not available yet on O'reilly. I wanted to see it in context, but I would be shocked if this is your view. Without professional linguists, your model will output gibberish. Google Translate still does this by the way.

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