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    1. Yannic Kilcher, Tech Sister‏ @ykilcher May 31

      Yannic Kilcher, Tech Sister Retweeted Miles Brundage

      these "folks" were wrong in advance, none of these things was seriously considered a huge breakthrough. Let me explain...https://twitter.com/Miles_Brundage/status/1399448341671387138 …

      Yannic Kilcher, Tech Sister added,

      Miles Brundage @Miles_Brundage
      A few AI achievements of the past 5 years that lots of folks said in advance were huge deals, but didn’t cause much of a splash when they happened: - Superhuman 3+ play poker - Solving hard exploration Atari games - Superhuman StarCraft play
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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 31
      Replying to @ykilcher

      There is an entire genre of people (with a vested interested in hyping up AI progress) saying "AI achieved X which experts said would never happen", when, if you look closely, no actual expert was saying X would never happen and most experts were expecting it to happen imminently

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        2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          Here's one example of something I've been eyeing since ~2009 as a potential Big Deal for AI (not that I was an expert, nor am I one now): RoboCup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup  Team of autonomous robots winning the World Cup. Features embodiment, etc.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          The prediction of those who started RoboCup (experts?), at the time, was that it would be possible by ~2050. Still 30 years to go. I expect it will likely take a bit longer, though 2050 isn't too unrealistic.

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        2. Jr Kibs‏ @JrKibs May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          Many Go experts said at the time that AI solved the game of Go 10 years too early. More recently, many protein folding experts have said that Alphafold has achieved what they thought would be possible in a few decades.

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        3. Jr Kibs‏ @JrKibs May 31
          Replying to @JrKibs @fchollet @ykilcher

          There are clearly areas where AI is achieving feats that were thought impossible in the short term. Maybe we should create a site that lists the statements of experts in the field where AI impresses, so there will be no more debate.

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        1. FrankStain‏ @Frank37004246 May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          I mean I could make it happen too if I could spend 2 billion on the problem like certain companies :) nobody sane in their mind would spend all those money on Go or playing games.

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        2. Christian Szegedy‏ @ChrSzegedy May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          I don't know. Go was quite of dicy, in most expert opinion when it happened. Same with StarCraft. There were 2015 survey of machine learning experts and very few expected those to happen before 2020. The timelines for champion level go were estimated for between 2020-2040.

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        3. Federico Vaggi‏ @F_Vaggi May 31
          Replying to @ChrSzegedy @fchollet @ykilcher

          I was genuinely very surprised that StarCraft was solved under these (APM, vision) constraints. It was a ridiculous accomplishment.

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        1. James‏ @AwokeKnowing May 31
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          What do experts say right now about lure vision level 5 autonomy?

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        1. 𝚁𝚞𝚍𝚒 𝙺𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚠‏ @RudiKershaw Jun 1
          Replying to @fchollet @ykilcher

          A variation of this that I often see is when experts in other fields (Physics, Philosophy, Maths, etc) believe certain problems are "AI Complete" (requiring a general AI to solve them) and then the problems are promptly solved without it. Nick Bostrom comes to mind.

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