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Deep learning @google. Creator of Keras. Author of 'Deep Learning with Python'. Opinions are my own.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 2

      What makes discussions with people who are convinced that there can be no rational explanation for consciousness so difficult is that they mostly won’t be prepared to argue the question via rational explanations

      47 replies 21 retweets 261 likes
    2. zhaey‏ @Zhaey_ May 2
      Replying to @Plinz

      Is that actually true? What's an example of this?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 2
      Replying to @Zhaey_

      I don’t expect Christof Koch, Francois Chollet or David Chapman to meaningfully engange with critics of their position

      2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2
      Replying to @Plinz @Zhaey_

      This is funny to me, because not only do I frequently engage in debates about consciousness with people with differing opinions -- I also believe the opposite of the leading tweet. Consciousness is a natural phenomenon for which there should be a scientific explanation.

      1 reply 0 retweets 24 likes
    5. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2
      Replying to @fchollet @Plinz @Zhaey_

      In general, though, when I engage in these discussion it is to point out mistakes or to state what we don't actually know. I do not try to push a specific theory of consciousness, because I don't have one.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2
      Replying to @fchollet @Plinz @Zhaey_

      I do have several ideas of what consciousness is and how it works, but like everyone else's, they aren't backed by solid evidence, so I don't the point in trying to assert these ideas as the one true explanation.

      5 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 2
      Replying to @fchollet @Zhaey_

      Joscha Bach Retweeted François Chollet

      I found it fascinating when you suggested that the brain might be similar to an antenna, "catching" consciousness via interfacing with a general consciousness singleton. I am not sure how we can make that idea compatible with current physics.https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1319498410693586944?s=20 …

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      François CholletVerified account @fchollet
      There is one consciousness singleton, and the self-observing information processing machinery of our brains act as a receiver for it. I consider the Hard Problem to be beyond our reach at this time, so I don't have any judgment on whether this might be an acceptable possibility.
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    8. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2
      Replying to @Plinz @Zhaey_

      To be clear, I don't endorse the antenna analogy (though I don't think it can be definitely discarded either). I have much mundane views of consciousness, as being generated by the brain. I shared the analogy because it was interesting, thought-provoking, not because I believe it

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2
      Replying to @fchollet @Plinz @Zhaey_

      I see this idea as akin to the simulation hypothesis: fun, interesting, very implausible, but ultimately impossible to disprove.

      10:16 PM - 2 May 2021
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        2. Haig Հայկ‏ @haig May 2
          Replying to @fchollet @Plinz @Zhaey_

          William James and Aldous Huxley both proposed the reducing valve / antennae framework of consciousness not because it sounded fun & interesting, though it did, but because it better opened an explanatory path for the phenomenology of altered states of consciousness...

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Haig Հայկ‏ @haig May 2
          Replying to @haig @fchollet and

          The problem with armchair consciousness studies by the AI & “rationality” crowd is that they are taking their one dominant mode of analytical/logical operation as the only one available and colonizing the rest of reality.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. TrainOfError‏ @TrainOfError May 3
          Replying to @fchollet @Plinz @Zhaey_

          I just like the fact that an independent but highly connected cell, selectively adding signal to a local stimulus, creates a substrate upon which an entirely new dimension emerges. One that it participates in but seemingly isn’t capable of perceiving or directionally influencing.

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        3. TrainOfError‏ @TrainOfError May 3
          Replying to @TrainOfError @fchollet and

          It’s likes all the way down.

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