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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2

    No one today understands consciousness. It's not just that we can't recreate it, it's that we don't even understand its most basic properties -- what it is, what it isn't, what is its function. If someone tells you they understand it, they're deceiving themselves.

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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet May 2

        In general, humans tend to overestimate how much they understand about natural systems, because they can't perceive most of the complexity of these systems. We're surrounded by an ocean of complexity, and because we manage to paddle on its surface, we believe we're in control.

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      2. Bill Perkins (Guy)‏Verified account @bp22 May 2
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        An illusion?

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      3. Jim Salsman‏ @jsalsman May 2
        Replying to @bp22 @fchollet

        I disagree. Consciousness is merely the thoughts we can remember. People seem to need it to be more complex than that. Why? Obviously dreams that are remembered are an exception, but I don't think they disturb the utility of general correctness of the simple definition.

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      2. Ya Ne Znaiu‏ @yaneznaiu1 May 2
        Replying to @fchollet

        But we will still slap “Powered by AI” on an Excel spreadsheet and market the f out of it.

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      3. Viraj‏ @Viraj25492782 May 2
        Replying to @yaneznaiu1 @fchollet

        True but AI and AGI are two different things. If the consumer doesn't know that it's a problem

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      2. Daniel Bigham‏ @danielbigham May 2
        Replying to @Luminous_Air @Alice_Adams @fchollet

        My feeling exactly.

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      2. multi_modality  🍕 🍿 🍕 🍿 🍕‏ @perleypaapcrabb May 2
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        Do we know of any forces described by physics that exert influence on consciousness?

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      3. Ben Davidson‏ @ben_davidson8 May 2
        Replying to @perleypaapcrabb @fchollet

        How would a physicists know what is conscious and not conscious? Many things that are discussed as “Forces” are really discussions of fields and there is no “Force” involved (or not the action-at-a-distance kind of forces), e.g., gravity is space-time.

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      1. FlyingOctopus0‏ @FlyingOctopus0 May 2
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        How would you even test a theory of consciousness?

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