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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Jun 2020

      Language is sometimes confused for thinking. That's a category error. Language is a tool to express, organize, store, and recall thoughts. It works for most types of thought, but not all. And there are other ways to express thoughts -- gestures, facial expressions, drawings, etc.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Jun 2020

      A key property of systems for expressing thoughts (especially language) is that, by encoding our transient thoughts into something else that can be observed and reasoned about, they make thinking reflective, recursive. They make it possible to think about our thoughts.

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        1. 𝕍𝕒𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕖 𝔽𝕣𝕠𝕓𝕚𝕤𝕙𝕖𝕣‏ @harrisonpartch 13 Jun 2020
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          You are so close, yet so far. No, language doesn't do that by itself. Writing systems do that.

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        1. Nico Parodi‏ @NicParodi 13 Jun 2020
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          It's unfortunate that they do require a high level of mastery to accurately render the details of most underlying thoughts. And some of those systems have encoding limitations too, especially when it comes to real-time rendering.

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        1. trylks‏ @trylks 13 Jun 2020
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          http://explosm.net/comics/1582/ pic.twitter.com/fnTiJQQj7E

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        1. JoJaSciPo‏ @strangetruther 13 Jun 2020
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          Oh. <Click> Did I not already know that? If I did, why have I assumed the recursive feature of human thought arose from tool use? But perhaps tools and language both drove recursive thought.

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        1. guidolo‏ @guidolos 13 Jun 2020
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          I constantly think if the structure of language has some impact on the way people are. More structured languages make the society more organized maybe?

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        1. Rieks op den Akker‏ @rodakker 14 Jun 2020
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          Yes, and we should to this: language is the interface and the way we can communicate and program others how to think by reading the thoughts that we express. (Only for addressees that recognize them, of course).

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        2. Frédéric Prost‏ @Descartes_Ghost 14 Jun 2020
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          The most telling examples are qualias: when you talk about "pain" for instance, this word bears no meaning in itself if you have not felt pain once yourself. It is in stark opposition to mathematical sentences for instance in which meaning is carried by the syntax.

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        3. Frédéric Prost‏ @Descartes_Ghost 14 Jun 2020
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          In another perspective language is the portal between the world of ideas and the world of objects. Writing allows you to turn ideas in a tangible object, dually reading makes the world of objects modify your thoughts.

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