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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Jun 2020

    Language is sometimes confused for thinking. That's a category error. Language is a tool to express, organize, store, and recall thoughts. It works for most types of thought, but not all. And there are other ways to express thoughts -- gestures, facial expressions, drawings, etc.

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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Jun 2020

        A key property of systems for expressing thoughts (especially language) is that, by encoding our transient thoughts into something else that can be observed and reasoned about, they make thinking reflective, recursive. They make it possible to think about our thoughts.

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      1. Marcos Pereira‏ @voxelbased 13 Jun 2020
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        Spill the tea on gpt 3

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      2. Dr. Julie Gurner‏ @drgurner 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @fchollet

        Do you believe that language directs the formulation of thoughts? For example, if we do not have native words for concepts, does it limit us? I think about this often as it applies to people of other languages, cultures, etc..that it expands us, in part, due to language expansion

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      3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @drgurner

        Yes, language is an operating system for thinking. You can think more with language than without, not all languages are equal, and you can think even more in written language.

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      2. Deyan Ginev‏ @dginev 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @piyush_iway1994 @fchollet

        Thoughts are grounded in experience, not language. If you know 2+ languages, you can grab some everyday thought like "I feel cold", and pronounce/think it in each language. At least in my head, the sound is different, but it maps to the same perception, for these simple cases.

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      2. Damian Blasi‏ @blasi_lang 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @fchollet

        It's amusing to see that this is the specular opposite of what Chomsky conjectured: language is inefficient for communication but it might be efficient for thought. (I myself don't follow closely this debate, so pardon the coarseness).

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      3. Scott H. Hawley‏ @drscotthawley 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @blasi_lang @fchollet

        Q. from a non-linguist: I happened to be watching this old Chomsky interview tonight when I took a break to check Twitter: https://youtu.be/A1RrbexZ5LY?t=1714 … At that spot (after a question from Bryan Magee) is Chomsky not affirming @fchollet's point that language != thinking?

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      2. JoJaSciPo‏ @strangetruther 13 Jun 2020
        Replying to @BharatDharma @fchollet

        I prefer this answer to the one FC gave to @drgurner , which started: "Yes, "

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