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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Oct 2019

    There's a big difference between data-efficiency and information-efficiency. We could make considerable progress on the former without even starting to approach the latter -- and never realize our fundamental mistake.

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      2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Oct 2019

        Abstraction is the golden path to information efficiency. But all kinds of hacks can get you data efficiency.

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      3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Oct 2019

        The difference between data & information: - Data is plentiful & noisy, the large majority of data is not information - Information is what makes data useful - We are bad at extracting info from data. We only manage to distill & use a small fraction of what is really available

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      4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Oct 2019

        Working on "data efficiency" typically means finding new hacks to increase the amount of information we can extract from the same data. But "information efficiency" is an entirely unrelated concept: how to efficiently and effectively make use of information

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      2. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @fchollet

        Is there a good reference as to what you mean by information-efficiency? I don't quite understand the distinction.

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      3. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @Zergylord @fchollet

        data efficiency: compression, and all that jazz. information efficiency: realizing just a few facebook quiz questions, or Likes, can define how someone can be influenced to vote, rather than storing their whole online footprint in digital form

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      2. Benjamin P Rollert‏ @benrollert 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @fchollet

        this is also a common source of tension between engineers and data scientists - eg, engineers will prioritize data efficiency over information efficiency. For example, refusing to create abstractions in the data (derived tables, etc) because it adds more steps to a pipeline.

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      3. Daniel Schildt‏ @autiomaa 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @benrollert @fchollet

        Amount of data (or website traffic, on some cases...) is still too often prioritised over quality of it.

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      1. Renu Raman‏ @renuraman 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @fchollet

        The brain vs the gut. One is data efficient and the other is information efficient. Nice terms.

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      1. Paul Tune‏ @ptuls 18 Oct 2019
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        Data is merely a byproduct of any measurement system. Data is useful as information in the context of the (prediction) task at hand. So improving information efficiency would require the consideration of the measurement system and the task.

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