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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Oct 2019

      I had always assumed that the similarity between the Japanese word for "typhoon" (台風, pronounced "taifū") and the English and French versions (in French it's "typhon", pronounced "teefon") was accidental. But is it? This word turns out to have a strange, thousand-year history

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    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Oct 2019

      French "typhon" comes from Latin "typhon" (strong wind), itself from ancient greek Τυφῶν (tuphon). It enters the French vocabulary in the 16th century via the Portuguese word "tufão", brought back to Europe by Portuguese sailors who got it from South Asian or East Asia

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Oct 2019

      It turns out that the greek word had previously made its way into Persian (tūfān) and from there, to Arabic and Hindi. It may have travelled as far east as Malaysia. And that's the word the Portuguese brought back. Like genealogy, etymology isn't a tree -- it's a graph.

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    4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Oct 2019

      Meanwhile, China has the word 颱風 (táifēng) with basically the same meaning. Pronounced "taifung" in Cantonese. Which transferred to Japanese as 台風. Did the Chinese word come from the Hindi & Arabic word, which itself came from Greek? Can't say for sure, but it seems likely.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 13 Oct 2019

      In conclusion: if you ever wonder where something comes from, the answer is usually "from 5th century BC Greece"

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        2. Frank A. Krueger‏ @praeclarum 13 Oct 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          I doubt it stops there. Greek was just one of the Anatolian/Indo-European languages.

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        3. Sebastian‏ @sebirocs 13 Oct 2019
          Replying to @praeclarum @fchollet

          Most of Greek words come from Proto-Indo-European, there are exceptions obviously.

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        1. 𝙷𝚎𝚗𝚛𝚒 𝙰𝚜𝚜𝚎𝚒𝚕𝚢‏ @rikkles 13 Oct 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          Just add “ or Near East” (aramaic) and you can get rid of “usually”

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        1. TweetleDee‏ @tcooney8 13 Oct 2019
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          You made me lol, BUT what of the language never set to stone, or destroyed/lost along the way, untranslatable or mis translated. Too bad we can only reach as far as documentation and then are limited by understanding.

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        1. KV‏ @karumanchi 13 Oct 2019
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          If you are fascinated by word origins, The Language of Food by @jurafsky is an interesting journey into the origin of “food names” and an amazing read. if nothing else, it will add data to to update the prior of “usually Greece. “

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        1. Gao Hao‏ @qfgaohao 13 Oct 2019
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          Probably not this one. "颱風 (táifēng)" is a recent thing. It's called "颶風 (jufeng)" three or four hundred years ago.

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        1. Johan Mahady‏ @Palomaki 13 Oct 2019
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          Also the Visiual depiction of The Japanese God of Wind Fugin is copied from Greek. Well at least the wind bag/sail. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C5%ABjin?wprov=sfla1 …pic.twitter.com/YgONUiZy3r

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        1. (Ā,T)‏ @innerproduct 13 Oct 2019
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          I usually make the assumption that the Chinese got there first and then the idea/word either spread from there or was independently found/coined elsewhere (middle-east, India, Europe) at some later point.

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        1. AimeronsNous d'en haut‏ @QuoiQueSoit_il 13 Oct 2019
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          興味深いですの。遠き希蠟が起源とは。

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        1. Sharad‏ @sharadmaroo 13 Oct 2019
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          Sub Conclusion: That's because you don't know much about old civilizations. Just because you're famous doesn't mean you're right all the time. You still have a lot to learn dude. Show some humility else you won't learn anything.

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