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    1. Suzana Ilić‏ @suzatweet 10 Oct 2019

      Suzana Ilić Retweeted The Gradient

      "The war between ML frameworks has raged on since the rebirth of deep learning." That's a bit too dramatic though, no?https://twitter.com/gradientpub/status/1182327049307844613 …

      Suzana Ilić added,

      The Gradient @gradientpub
      The war between ML frameworks has raged on since the rebirth of deep learning. Who is winning? @cHHillee's data analysis shows clear trends: PyTorch is winning dramatically among researchers, while Tensorflow still dominates industry. #PyTorch #Tensorflow https://thegradient.pub/state-of-ml-frameworks-2019-pytorch-dominates-research-tensorflow-dominates-industry/ …
      10 replies 11 retweets 101 likes
    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 10 Oct 2019
      Replying to @suzatweet

      Oh, an article praising PyTorch, written by a PyTorch team intern, published at the same time as the PyTorch developer conference. Interesting series of coincidences... It uses cherrypicked data to demonstrate that... PyTorch definitely had at least 588 users in 2019.

      6 replies 13 retweets 95 likes
    3. Horace He‏ @cHHillee 10 Oct 2019
      Replying to @fchollet @suzatweet

      Can you explain why you think its cherrypicked? I "cherry picked" the conference list, but I believe it should roughly match consensus. If you have other conferences you think I should add to the figures I'd be glad to do so.

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 10 Oct 2019
      Replying to @cHHillee @suzatweet

      FYI the actual split in the research world is ~30-40% PT vs ~60-70% TF/Keras. This is the range of numbers you get by looking at 1) ArXiv mentions data, 2) Colab usage, 3) Actual research surveys. All the sources I can think of end up in this range. Extremely dishonest article.

      10:38 PM - 10 Oct 2019
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        2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 10 Oct 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @cHHillee @suzatweet

          Academic research is also literally the only usage category where you will see high PyTorch numbers (above 30%). And it's a very narrow category (~5% of TF usage).

          2 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
        3. Frederik Kratzert‏ @fkratzert 11 Oct 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @cHHillee @suzatweet

          Do you have any proof for these claims? At least from @cHHillee we know how the numbers were derived. Also, what are your responses to a) his ablation study to include Keras to TF (no significant increase) and b) that he tackles more than NLP?

          0 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
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        1. tinkerteller‏ @tinkerteller 11 Oct 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @cHHillee @suzatweet

          Seriously, Collab and surveys? The article is not dishonest at all. The top conferences is what matters for bleeding edge. Community has written off TF/Keras. It’s a giant mess even in TF2 with perf issues and fragmented API. Listen to trends instead of burying head in sand.

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