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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      Historically, there have been two opposing views of cognition. One in which intelligence is a general ability to learn from arbitrary data, and one in which intelligence is the result of a myriad of special-purpose systems shaped by millions of years of evolution.

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    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      The first view derives from Enlightenment thinkers, themselves influenced by the ancients. This seems to be the position of most deep learning newbies today. The second view originates with Darwin, and was embraced by first-generation AI thinkers like Minsky, etc.

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      According to the first view, the mind could be seen as a "blank slate" (or a randomly initialized neural network) capable of making sense of any problem or environment, without requiring hard-wired priors.

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    4. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      If you take this PoV, a freshly initialized human brain placed in the body of an octopus-like creature living in the higher layers of Jupiter's atmosphere would have no issue taking control of the sensorimotor capabilities of the alien body, socialize with other octopii, etc.

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    5. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      ..and would perhaps end up building an advanced technological civilization, and spread to the rest of universe. In this view, such a thing as "artificial general intelligence" could exist, and a human brain would be an example of it.

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    6. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      According to the second view, the mind is a collection of advanced cognitive processes hard-wired by evolution, and being merely tuned through embodied experience. Humans' ability for language, for ex, would be an evolved prior, something that thinkers like Chomsky have defended.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 23 Apr 2019

      Importantly, it has been at least 15 yrs since we've gathered enough evidence to rule out both views. Although the second view has largely fallen out of favor, the first view is, shockingly, still going strong among people who have no context on the history of cognitive science.

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        2. Phil Tolton‏ @ptolts 23 Apr 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          Whats the latest view?

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        3. Andrés Moreira  🌳‏ @dilefante 23 Apr 2019
          Replying to @ptolts @fchollet

          Yes please, more on this. I'm not clear about the dismissal of the second view, and wonder too about what a third way would look like.

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        1. Steven Marlow  🤖‏ @sd_marlow 23 Apr 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          I'm a big fan of innate behaviors (pre-wired cognitive abilities that bootstrap our development), but both don't give enough credit to how much brain power (in early age) is required of just the body to function. A "fresh mind" has nothing to drive it's development.

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        1. Timothy Rue‏ @AbstractionPhys 23 Apr 2019
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          Maybe we need a new word, similiar to anthropomorphize. But where we instead try to define humans in terms of configured hardened earth. You know so we can promote AI as being human but better.

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        2. EJTCarpio‏ @CarpioEjt 23 Apr 2019
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          I'm interested to know how the 2nd view was disproven.I think that if it's based on Darwin: then its main pillar/crutch is the "time needed for evolution". recent studies show the earth is "younger" than required by darwin's evolution theory. Is that it?

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        3. EJTCarpio‏ @CarpioEjt 23 Apr 2019
          Replying to @CarpioEjt @fchollet

          And... finally... what's the current "view"?

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        1. TreeOfChuangTzu‏ @holisticbtc 23 Apr 2019
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          Seems to me like a two layered system. #2 as a base layer that as a whole creates an emergent layer #1, or at least a layer that behaves like 1.

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        1. (((sharing notes)))‏ @FriendiliGhost 23 Apr 2019
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          And then maybe there are evolved cognitive processes inherent in humans (View II) But they lie embedded deep inside. & It needs the pressure &stress of a 'blank state' facing a real world challenge for us to be able to access those evolution-acquired internal cogntive processes?

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        1. Andrew Jennings‏ @andyjennings 23 Apr 2019
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          the interesting question is: what philosophy is implied by our current architecture of deep learning?

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        1. Shrikkanth‏ @shriPlusPlus 24 Apr 2019
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          +1. I'm someone who's bought into the second view and would like to know why it has fallen out of favour!

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