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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019

      We all want safe, responsible AI research. The first step is not misrepresenting the significance of your results to the public, not obfuscating your methods, & not spoon-feeding fear-mongering press releases to the media. That's our 1st responsibility. https://www.businessfast.co.uk/elon-musks-openai-builds-artificial-intelligence-so-powerful-it-must-be-kept-locked-up-for-the-good-of-humanity/ …

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    2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019

      I really regret having to say this, because the paper was actually very good (if incremental, but there's nothing wrong with that). But the surrounding PR blitz and public misrepresentation is causing serious damage to the field and its public perception. Please don't do this.

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019

      Yes, fear-mongering can be a good strategy to inflate the perceived significance of your research. It's also completely irresponsible, and even dangerous. The less PR circus, the more room we will have to talk about the safe and responsible deployment of the latest ML research.

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    4. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @fchollet

      When you say fear-mongering, do you mean reaching out to journalists in advance of publication, something wrong with the framing of the result in the blog post, or something wrong with the discussion of risks, all of the above, something else, etc.?

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    5. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @Miles_Brundage

      SotA LMs get published on a regular basis (with or w/o the model). Why did this one need an all-out PR assault? Whether releasing some models raises security issues is a legitimate debate (tho this model prolly doesn't). Is Bloomberg or the Guardian the right place to have it?

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    6. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

      How is it not misrepresentation to take best-of-25 samples from cherrypicked prompts and tell the public, "the AI wrote this, this is what AI does now"? BTW I have a trading algo that does 12,000% per year* (*evaluated with best-of-25 daily trades)

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

      How is it not needless fear mongering and hype to tell the journalists, "we'll keep the AI secret because releasing it would be too dangerous, trust us", when the actual model is an incrementally better LM? Where's the threat model? Etc. It's layer after layer of issues.

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        2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

          I like you guys and I think you do good research. Please be more careful next time.

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        3. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          For sure!

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        2. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @fchollet

          100% agree more transparency was needed around the threat model, and "trust us" is not a winning perspective.

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        3. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @Miles_Brundage @fchollet

          Miles Brundage Retweeted Amanda Askell

          Will also reiterate that we did say we were not sure it was the right decision, but there is an important asymmetry here as Amanda points out, and I'm glad the conversation is happening now vs. later:https://twitter.com/AmandaAskell/status/1097366100025589760 …

          Miles Brundage added,

          Amanda Askell @AmandaAskell
          I recommend this thread by Josh and think question (3) of where to draw the line is very difficult. The fact that you can delay the release of something but can't un-release it is one reason to err on the conservative side when industry-wide norms haven't been established. https://twitter.com/jachiam0/status/1097030712945831937 …
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        2. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

          The main threat model is greatly scaled up disinformation campaigns.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Julian Harris‏ @julianharris 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @jeremyphoward @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

          Are state-sponsored APTs (advanced persistent threats) just going to give up because the whole model wasn't provided? Will this really make a difference 12 months from now? Who's to say they don't already have even better corpora they can use?

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        2. Amanda Askell‏ @AmandaAskell 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @fchollet @Miles_Brundage

          One difficulty is that the point at which you should switch to a partial release is likely to be a point of incremental improvement (if progress is fairly continuous) but it's hard to make that switch without implying that your model is different in kind from what's come before.

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        3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @AmandaAskell @Miles_Brundage

          Very few people I talked to had any issues with not releasing the trained model, per se. It's the way this was handled, the ridiculous hype, and the negative impact on public perception that resulted from it, that are making everyone shake their head in disappointment.

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