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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 11 Nov 2018

    People constantly try to interpret what the mind is doing using analogies ("memory is like a filing cabinet..."). But my least favorite kind of analogy is when deep learning people compare properties of the mind to ad-hoc deep learning concepts. You people should know better

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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 11 Nov 2018

        Losses, gradients, backprop, dropout? Sorry, but you might as well bring up kernel functions or hinge loss

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      1. Universal Knowledge Society‏ @UniKnowledgeSoc 11 Nov 2018
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        Do you believe that improving our understanding of the mind could lead to improvements of deep learning methods? Or maybe new paths to follow in machine learning?

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      2. Daniel Hudson‏ @DanxHudson 11 Nov 2018
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        Completely agree. I’m not sure why that type of analogy is made.

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      3. Ángel Lamuño ❦‏ @AngelLamuno 11 Nov 2018
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        We naturally and spontaneously think of other beings — natural and artificial; gods, animals and man-made devices — in anthropomorphic terms.

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      1. __anoop‏ @__anoop 11 Nov 2018
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        Francois, try to address the root cause. People who dont need to learn it are doing so and then people who shouldn't be teaching are teaching and that leads to such consequences. They grasp for what sounds easiest. As ma boi @nntaleb said: making sense <> being right

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      1. BiohazZzard‏ @BiohazZzZard 11 Nov 2018
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        A good mental exercise is to compare machine learning algos to some other complex decision making system, for example the immune system, instead of the nervous system.

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      2. David T. Weiseth‏ @dtweiseth 11 Nov 2018
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        Filing cabinet is particularly bad, memory runs on something not yet reflected in deep learning

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      3. David T. Weiseth‏ @dtweiseth 11 Nov 2018
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        Deep learning is like a blind man looking for his keys, it can work to find patterns, but really inefficient, human mind has a whole fundamental system not accounted for in Deep Learning, there are different levels of learning, “Deep” learning is actually quite shallow

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      1.  🏁Euge 🏴‍☠️‏ @culurciello 11 Nov 2018
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        ReLU ==> 1 when my brain attends, 0 when it does not?

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      1. ONE‏ @AngryBirdUnload 12 Nov 2018
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        The point of deep learning is to compare it to the brain’s cognitive abilities. The fact that we can’t do it effectively yet doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t examine the similarities and differences between functionalities, actually it means that we should.

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