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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 15 Oct 2018

      If you want to become an expert one day, you should not get started by learning from amateurs. They will impart you with mental models that kind of work but aren't quite correct, which will set you back enormously -- far more than a lack of knowledge.

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    2. Ariel Herbert-Voss‏ @adversariel 15 Oct 2018
      Replying to @fchollet

      There’s still value in learning from amateurs. Example: taking a class from a great TA is often better than from a distinguished prof because the TA has been in contact with the material as a novice more recently and can better help you navigate beginners mistakes.

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 15 Oct 2018
      Replying to @adversariel

      I think this is very different. A TA will have expert mental models (even though they may not have fully internalized them), and students will have access to expert knowledge through textbooks. It's just a more pedagogical approach to teaching expert mental models (from books).

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    4. Ariel Herbert-Voss‏ @adversariel 15 Oct 2018
      Replying to @fchollet

      A TA is different only because they’ve had professional training either from an expert prof, other TAs, or books. I think it’s fine to learn from amateurs who can replicate this network learning effect to build mental models from expert sources.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 15 Oct 2018
      Replying to @adversariel

      I think if you're attending a uni class you are likely learning expert mental models, whether they're being taught by a TA, a Prof, or you're learning on your own with your textbook. This is much better than learning ad-hoc tricks from people with only a shallow understanding

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        1. John Stamford, PhD‏ @johnstamford 15 Oct 2018
          Replying to @fchollet @adversariel

          I wasn't sure where you was going with this but I agree. Especially with ML. Many self proclaimed experts are exploiting a little knowledge. Something from a uni is validated through a number of factors ie staff qualifications/experience, external moderation or peer review.

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        2. Ariel Herbert-Voss‏ @adversariel 15 Oct 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          That’s true. I agree that it’s not useful to learn “plug and play” tricks, especially from a security/integrity standpoint. I think if you’re resource-limited a good reading group with other motivated novices on an expert-written book will fill the gap much better.

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        3. Spencer (@ 🏡)‏ @adk_Spence 16 Oct 2018
          Replying to @adversariel @fchollet

          Makes sense. Was wondering if as an amateur I'm qualified to teach my mates

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