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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 3 Oct 2018

    François Chollet Retweeted Vincenzo Manzoni

    PyTorch has a lot of marketing firepower behind it, and as a result there's a common misconception that it has "momentum". Does it? I can't tell for sure, but the handful of traction indicators I monitor are showing that its user base has likely peaked around April-May 2018https://twitter.com/vincenzomanzoni/status/1047561148990730246 …

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    Vincenzo Manzoni @vincenzomanzoni
    #TensorFlow and #Keras are the most diffused framework for deep learning (according to this study). #PyTorch is getting momentum. All the other are niche players. My personal suggestion is to start with Keras backed by Tensorflow for its simplicity and the number of resources. https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1047547792137183232 …
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      1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 3 Oct 2018

        This graph is PyTorch-related search queries, for instance. In general, all indicators are heavily correlated.pic.twitter.com/l9bUkRlArz

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      2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 3 Oct 2018

        No, it would make no sense for Keras to support PyTorch (or Chainer for that matter). Also, "many people say" is not how we make design decisions

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      2. Ankesh Anand‏ @ankesh_anand 3 Oct 2018
        Replying to @fchollet

        Here's one data-point: Frameworks mentioned at ICLR 2018-2019: TensorFlow 228->266, Keras: 42->56, Pytorch 87->252https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/9kys38/r_frameworks_mentioned_iclr_20182019_tensorflow/ …

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      3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 3 Oct 2018
        Replying to @ankesh_anand

        The PyTorch user base has grown significantly from last year. My point is just that it has been stalling for the past 6 months.

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      1. The famous Simon Templar.‏ @Radegund 3 Oct 2018
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        I have used both. PyTorch is great to learn. Tf all the way for work though.

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      1. Vincenzo Manzoni‏ @vincenzomanzoni 3 Oct 2018
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        PyTorch has just reached the first release and http://Fast.ai  chose it as the backend of its deep learning library. Probably we cannot already measure the trend, but there are weak signals that it can start. http://www.fast.ai/2018/10/02/fastai-ai/ …

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      1. Dmytro Mishkin‏ @ducha_aiki 3 Oct 2018
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        I don't see the ads nor working for Fb. I was caffe and numpy user, stick to Keras for a year, even contributed to both and then migrated to PyTorch. Never regreted this.

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      1. Nairouz Mrabah‏ @NMrabah 3 Oct 2018
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        Today, I have decided to stop my short gloomy experience with the eager mode. I ran away from endless issues and I found myself writing nonsense code: `tf.cond` `tf.while_loop` ` tf.Print` ` tf.gather` ` tf.scatter_update` `tf.what_the_****`.

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      1. Nairouz Mrabah‏ @NMrabah 3 Oct 2018
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        To my surprise, I discovered that the ****** `tf.while_loop` does not work any longer. At the end of the day, nothing works properly neither the graph mode nor the eager one. I am really disappointed. Meanwhile, Tensorflow developers brag about this ****.

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