Counterpoint: Inequality between the working and middle classes has increased plenty in homogeneous nations like Japan as well. U.S. median income ranks 6th in the world. Crime is way down. The U.S. is less corrupt than Japan, Korea, Ireland, France, or Taiwan.https://twitter.com/toad_spotted/status/1042758946010918912 …
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Replying to @Noahpinion
Most of the weekly corruption stories that barely make the news in the US (both at the local and federal level) would be multi-year scandals in France or Japan. Which are pretty corrupt places.
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Any metric based on "perception" is hopelessly flawed, as you would know. See: people's perception of the percentage of the population that's immigrants. Or this https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts … People's perception is a reflection of the news they watch. It does not represent reality.
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Well, it's based on "expert assessments", whoever those are.
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Replying to @Noahpinion
Sounds totally reliable then. I wouldn't take this stuff for granted at all. Everything I know about these countries is telling me the opposite. Everywhere you go, you will find endless scandals, but the scale of gravity varies enormously from place to place.
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Should I regard your expertise on the matter as superior to theirs?
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Replying to @Noahpinion
Rather, you should disregard metrics based on "perception" as being as reliable as reading tea leaves. Go find some data instead.
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Replying to @fchollet
Ok but at the beginning of this discussion you insisted to me that France is much less corrupt. Should I discount your insistence, then?
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Replying to @Noahpinion
You don't have to trust me. Just look at corruption scandals from the past 5 years in France and corruption scandals from the past 5 months in the US. The latter far surpass the former in gravity and scope.
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This is the biggest one I can remember: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahuzac_affair … A minister had an undeclared foreign bank account (with $800,000 on it) and cheated on his taxes. It ended with a 3-year jail sentence. It was an enormous scandal. In the US this would lead a slow news day, maybe
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I don’t disagree with you but I also have the feeling that French media don’t investigate much. Mediapart is an exception and they report that Sarkozy has received millions from Khadafi.
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