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Deep learning @google. Creator of Keras. Author of 'Deep Learning with Python'. Opinions are my own.

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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 17 Sep 2018

      If you have over 1M followers but your median engagement per tweet is around ~10 retweets, wouldn't it mean most of your followers are fake? And in turn, wouldn't that mean that there are still dozens of millions of fake accounts on Twitter?

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    2. Aria Haghighi‏ @aria42 17 Sep 2018
      Replying to @fchollet

      You probably are getting order of 10K impressions, so you have about 1% of your followers seeing each Tweet. Which sounds low but you probably have fewer than 10% of MAP on a given day logged and then due to ranking average follower only sees about 10% of inventory.

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    3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 17 Sep 2018
      Replying to @aria42

      In my experience, a typical engagement rate is around 0.1% of raw follower count. A ~10 likes/RT median is consistent with ~10k followers, not 1 or 2 millions. Just saying

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    4. Aria Haghighi‏ @aria42 17 Sep 2018
      Replying to @fchollet

      Right, but you're assuming everyone who follows you is there everyday to see your tweets and that none of them have something higher ranked. 10% of MAP on a day isn't crazy and 10% for ranking inventory isn't as well.

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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 17 Sep 2018
      Replying to @aria42

      I'm not assuming anything, I'm just saying that there is a clear empirical relationship between raw follower count and engagement rate (whatever the underlying mechanism may be), and that the baseline is about a 1/1000 ratio. This is an observation, not a theory.

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        2. Aria Haghighi‏ @aria42 17 Sep 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          The assumption isn't around it's engagement rate, but that whatever gap is left after it is due to bots. The assumption you're making is everyone who isn't a bot is present everyday, most services don't have a 100% DAP/MAP ratio :) You're also not factoring loss due to ranking

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        3. Lionel X‏ @investirblog 17 Sep 2018
          Replying to @aria42 @fchollet

          What if the retweet are only from the bots ?

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        1. Arun Shroff‏ @arunshroff 17 Sep 2018
          Replying to @fchollet @aria42

          I agree with the empirical observation regarding thr engagement rate of 0.1% for tweets. this also agrees with the observed engagement rate for other mediums, including click through rates on banner ads in our experience in digital publishing. It should be easy enough to verify!

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