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    François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 12 Jul 2018

    Everyone trying to learn French hates the fact that it's spelled in seemingly absurd ways, with fancy word endings that are usually silent. Fun fact: French is actually spelled phonetically - according to how it was pronounced hundreds of years ago. For example, take conjugations

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      2. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 12 Jul 2018

        e.g. "(j')aime / (tu) aimes / (il) aime (nous) aimons / (vous) aimez / (ils) aiment" -- pronounced "aime/aime/aime/aimon/aimé". ~600 years ago, you'd have pronounced it like you spelled it, making it sound quite close to the original latin amo/amas/amat/amamus/amatis/amant

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      3. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 12 Jul 2018

        Think about it whenever you find yourself cursing silent word endings -- they weren't always silent. All of these oddities are there for a reason. Still, at this point it would make a lot of sense to reform French spelling...

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      1. amir‏ @amirsabanovic 12 Jul 2018
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        Oh I'm completely fine with the spelling, it's the listening and the guttural R that I'm struggling to overcome

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      1. BRH‏ @__BRH__ 12 Jul 2018
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        English: hold my beer. I’ve got this.

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      1. molecule61‏ @molecule61 12 Jul 2018
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        This is true of all languages with only semi-phonetic spelling, I always assumed. Keeping spelling phonetic requires effort. Entropy and all that.

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      1. Emma Bluemke‏ @emmabluemke 12 Jul 2018
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        Sounds like you'd really enjoy the book Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson :)

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      1. Shubhendu Trivedi‏ @_onionesque 12 Jul 2018
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        That is true for most languages that had some kind of a phonetic system. Even a lot of pronunciations in English that have slowly altered since old english used to be more faithful to the spelling. Guy Deutscher's book has some great examples.

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      1. Loïc A. Royer  💻 🔬 ⚗️‏ @loicaroyer 13 Jul 2018
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        I wish French orthography would undergo some high-pressure water cleanup and simplification. But the poesy of its useless terminal appendages has taken a life on its own and would be missed by many.

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      1. FaRo‏ @faroit 14 Jul 2018
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        the good thing about french pronunciation is: if you know the rules you can easily pronounce unknown words. Not the case for english or german.

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