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    1. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      "Successful" as in "isn't yet done bankrupting the country"? Universal healthcare is communism, in one sector, and eventually leads to financial and moral ruin—when death panels decide who doesn't get further treatment, and policemen will stop you from seeking treatment abroad.

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    2. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      But hey, the intelligentsia can always find a family member or friend "in" the system who will bump them in front of the line, and the upper class can use power and money for that. First in line while claiming a medal for their generosity—life is good for the communists!

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    3. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      Meanwhile, the plebs will wait in line for hours, days, weeks, months, years, for treatment in the increasingly overcrowded and underfunded hospitals. They can't afford a baksheesh, even less to move to the nice districts with nice hospitals, or to go abroad.

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    4. Luís Oliveira‏ @luismbo 7 Jan 2019
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      What's the alternative solution (other than dying immediately instead of waiting in line)?

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    5.  💻 🐴Ngnghm‏ @Ngnghm 7 Jan 2019
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      Lines are, as always, the inevitable result of price control. Where there is a free market for medicine, there are no lines—people pay for the medical services they actually care for (for themselves or others they love) and thereby attract the talent and resources.

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    6. Luís Oliveira‏ @luismbo 7 Jan 2019
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      Right. No money, no care. No need for death panels. 🤦‍♂️

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    7. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      No money no care is a rule of nature that no wishful thinking can evade. Question is: is there a monopoly on who controls the money, or may anyone offer to pay? In the latter case, if *no one* is ready to pay for you, no system can save you.pic.twitter.com/fQtU4EFK29

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    8. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      François-René Rideau Retweeted François-René Rideau

      Also, when the only healthcare provider is the state, you find that you've been moved to a line that's never served because you're "a nazi" (or, alternatively, because you fail to be a nazi). And if you don't find that normal, there's a psikhushka for you.https://twitter.com/fare/status/1081698630661218308 …

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      "In a country where the sole employer is the State, opposition means death by slow starvation. The old principle: who does not work does not eat, has been replaced by a new one: who does not obey shall not eat." — Leon Trotsky
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    9. Luís Oliveira‏ @luismbo 7 Jan 2019
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      Where I live, we have free healthcare and private providers side by side. Are we discussing theoretical systems or practical implementations?

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    10. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      France's system is bleeding so much money that the country is basically selling its children in indentured servitude to arab princes to pay for it. Switzerland recently nationalized part of their healthcare system and it's already creating monster deficits. UK has death panels.

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      François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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      Making everyone pay multiple times the price of a fraction of the quality, under condition of compliance with a communist bureaucratic monopoly, isn't making things "free" for anyone except for a growing parasite class. Unaccountability isn't costlessness, but the opposite.

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        2. Christian Lynbech‏ @clynbech 7 Jan 2019
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          Is the US system something to look towards? AFAIK, the cost per patient in the US is twice that of Denmark which has universal healthcare (as well as private operators).

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        3. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 7 Jan 2019
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          The US system is quite bad since the New Deal and WWII, that somehow tied healthcare to work-based insurance contracts, with an absurd amount of regulations, monopolies and bureaucracy. US doctors spend more time in bureaucracy than in patient care—and that's after hiring aides.

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        1. Luís Oliveira‏ @luismbo 7 Jan 2019
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          Accountability. Definitely. Redistribution of wealth. Definitely, too.

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