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組み込みから*NIXシステム、HPCまで、計算機をこよなく愛するゲームプログラマ。C++を関数型言語と間違えているタイプのC++er。遺伝的FM音源とかの人。 丼:@fadis@mstdn.jp 欲しい物リスト:http://amzn.to/Mzt8F0 

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    1. Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      MessagePackには割と致命的な欠点が1つあって、シリアライズを始める時点で要素数が定まらないようなケースで使うことができない

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    2. SKSの申し子‏ @repeatedly 3 Dec 2012
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      @fadis_ それってどんなもんです?ネットワークとかで送信するときに要素が決まってない,という状況がよく分からんのですが…

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    3. Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      @repeatedly XMLストリームのようにデータの終端が通信の終了で、イベントが発生する度に要素が追加されていくような使い方できないかなーと

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    4. SKSの申し子‏ @repeatedly 3 Dec 2012
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      @fadis_ あー,可変長のデータということですか.まぁ無理ですなぁ

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    5. Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      @repeatedly HTTPのチャンクみたいに最後に続きがあるかどうかフラグが続いている配列があればできそうな気はするんですけどね ._.

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    6. SKSの申し子‏ @repeatedly 3 Dec 2012
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      @fadis_ まぁ俺そういうケースが必要になったことないので,サポートされる未来は無さそう.世の中で使われているシリアライゼーションフォーマットにないという時点でオワコン感

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    7. Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      @repeatedly 少なくともXML JSON EXIではそんな小細工するまでもなく可変長が扱えるので。つってもまぁストリームで使うのはオワコン感ありますね

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    8. SKSの申し子‏ @repeatedly 3 Dec 2012
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      @fadis_ 確かに使えるけど,それのパースに対応してる処理系はほとんどない気がしてるんだけど,どんなもんなんでしょう?少なくとも様々な言語の標準で,ストリーム的に処理出来るライブラリを知らない

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    9. Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      @repeatedly XMLにはそういう時のためにSAXがあってですね

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    10. SKSの申し子‏ @repeatedly 3 Dec 2012
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      @fadis_ SAXはあくまでAPIとしてはそうだけど,処理を始めたら大抵今の読み込んでいるテキストを対象に操作する感じでは無い?そこで処理をストップして,次のデータの追加まで待ってくれたり普通するんだっけ?

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      Fadis‏ @fadis_ 3 Dec 2012
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      @repeatedly 続きくれコールバックの中身をどう実装するか次第かと

      2:52 AM - 3 Dec 2012
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        1. Sadayuki Furuhashi‏ @frsyuki 3 Dec 2012
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          @fadis_ @unagix @repeatedly その辺り、少なくともC++版(と次期Ruby版)には高度ないじくりができるAPIが入っていて、例えば packer::pack_array とか vrefbuffer::migrateで。

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        1. Sadayuki Furuhashi‏ @frsyuki 3 Dec 2012
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          @fadis_ @unagix @repeatedly データそのものがストリームである必要が無いのに賛成で、データがストリームとして流れるケースがあるのも賛成で、後者の状況においてはストリームシリアライザ/デシリアライザを使えばOKですね。IO周りの実装が複雑にはなりますが。

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        1. Sadayuki Furuhashi‏ @frsyuki 3 Dec 2012
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          @fadis_ @unagix @repeatedly データをストリームとして流す必要が無いが、単に配列が長すぎるときは、いったんストリームでシリアライズしてからヘッダを付ける方法もあります。

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