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Libertarianism, or, why rich people deserve to be richer actually

As Christopher Hitchens said I have always found it quaint and rather touching that there is a movement [Libertarians] in the US that thinks Americans are not yet selfish enough.

Let me preface my response with this. I used to identify as an AnCap Libertarian. You're missing the nuance of Hitchens' quote. Today's Libertarians are market purists, believing "selfishness" (in the Ayn Rand sort of way) leads to growth. Taxation isn't theft btw

I know it's philosophical roots, but you apply them to the same economics as these "fake" Libertarians so what's the difference?

Ah so your charge is they're not yet crazy enough, got it

1) the Constitution protects me from extremists/fools & clowns who don't value a society 2) the federal gov't is the organ, of that document

yr absolutely right, and I think point is not to have a bigger/more flag(s) or, a bigger crowd(ex. Antifa?) but a better or more right idea

I figured your comment was pointing out the irony of libertarians constantly screaming about how they love 'the constitution' (which is literally nothing but the blueprint for the federal government) while constantly saying they want to abolish the federal government

Are you confusing libertarians with anarchists? I don't know many libertarians who want to shred the Bill of Rights or who see the separation of powers in the Constitution as a bad thing. Libertarians have no problem with a basic Federal Government and an American nation-state.

Yes, they do. It’s not an "American Nation-State". Technically it’s not a "Nation" at all. It’s a Republic. And yes, there is a difference. The US is a Republic made up of 50 SOVEREIGN States. The States, and in turn The People, are the sovereigns. Not Federal government.

States Rights are what makes some yr rights "personally sovereign" but other 'Fed rights' can outweigh, ex. school busing, it's a aggregate

but the basic unit of Statehood is the particular State itself, not the individual who only acts out the particular State's Rights

Governments have guns. Corporations have exploitation. Who’s fighting the bigger authority, socialists or libertarians?

Socialists

Corporations have governments

That’s much harder to prove. Literature on the US shows money doesn’t clearly influence election outcomes. Government puts guns in people’s faces everyday. And for non-corporate reasons: racism, drugs, violations of all kinds of laws.

You should probably look up the correlation between private prisons and drug laws Also I don't think Government reps like Inhofe and Issa oppose climate change because of all the objective science But sure, "hard to prove"

I’ve worked in those circles and wrote a dissertation on market-friendly climate-change policy at LSE. Motivation of these people for opposing climate-change is also moral, fearing it impinges on economic liberty.

If climate change is real than "it might impinge on economic liberty" is not a moral stance

"I don't obey traffic laws because it might impinge on my driving liberty"