science is just philosophy that pretends not to be, hiding behind numbers
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How do you know someone's a philosopher? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
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the perception is that philosophy doesn't make any progress. That it is just a circle of people debating what x or y really meant, or analyzing author x using author y point of view. It's a circle jerk, basically
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All of the sciences were once just regarded as branches of philosophy. We happened to make so much progress in those areas that we were able to construct testable formal theories about them. That's philosophy making progress.
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They do not justify, therefore they do not exist
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Yeah, there's no natural distinction between philosophy and science. There are questions and problems, and there are ways of understanding and answering them. We've made more progress in some areas than in others; when we can finally formalise something, we call it "science."
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They aren't justifying. they aren't engaging, they're attempting to dominate. They're using whatever words come to mind because they're just a vehicle for the conversational intent to intimidate others into silence. It resembles argument, but is not.
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To quote Bertrand Russell, “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are so certain of themselves, and the wise so full of doubt.” I think there are bigger problems, but it’s pithy.
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