2/2 Autopoiesis is far more demanding than just dissipative/self-organizing
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Replying to @evantthompson
sure, may things transiently self-organize w/o forming closed network of 'enabling' relations. I will look at your book
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Replying to @normonics @evantthompson
my Q, prior to reading, would be, if hurricane doesn't make itself, what makes it?
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Replying to @normonics
It self-organizes, but it doesn't chemically synthesize itself, as any and all living cells do
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Replying to @evantthompson
I agree with you here! (But you seemed to contradict this in comment above)pic.twitter.com/654tM9qqID
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Replying to @normonics
I don't see the contradiction: "self-producing" means in the sense exemplified by molecular self-production in a cell
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Replying to @evantthompson
Hurricanes produce assemblages of coherent atmospheric flows
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Replying to @normonics
Yes, but that is not self-production in the strict autopoietic sense of components producing/synthesizing themselves.
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Replying to @evantthompson
Those locally coherent flows are the 'components'
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Replying to @normonics @evantthompson
hey, you're a true gentleman engaging w/ me even on your bday. happy birthday Evan!
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