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Writer, UBC Philosophy, Assoc Member Asian Studies & Psych Depts. Married to @beckettodd

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    1. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 17
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      That may be, but his books, talks, etc., adopt a psychologistic framework, even if he may have thought of it as skillful means

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    2. Jeff Sussna‏Verified account @jeffsussna May 17
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      How is that problematic?

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    3. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 17
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      My point was just that that is a Buddhist modernist move.

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    4. Jeff Sussna‏Verified account @jeffsussna May 17
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      Based on your description of Buddhist modernism, I'm not sure I buy that :-).

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    5. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 18
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      [1] There are 2 issues here: what are the characteristics of Buddhist modernism? what are the problems with Buddhist modernism? Casting Buddhist in psychologistic terms (as Trungpa does) is characteristic of Buddhist Modernism.

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    6. Jeff Sussna‏Verified account @jeffsussna May 18
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      I’m not trying to be argumentative. Just trying to really understand. My understanding of Trungpa has meaningful differences from the modernist approaches you describe.

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    7. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 18
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      No worries. I wasn't taking this to be argumentative. "BM" is an umbrella term and there are a lot of variants under it. Trungpa's way of being BM is unique, to be sure, but I still see him as falling into the general category.

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    8. Jeff Sussna‏Verified account @jeffsussna May 18
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      If someone teaches the traditional bardo teachings, but also presents the view that there is a bardo in every moment, is that BM?

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    9. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 18
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      No, that in of itself seems traditional to me. Whether it's part of BM would depend on the larger context.

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    10. Jeff Sussna‏Verified account @jeffsussna May 18
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      One last question, then I will give it a rest: if I correctly understand "enlightment as nonceptual", doesn't that view (and its attendant potential problems) go all the way back to Padmasambhava?

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      Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson May 18
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      Yes, and arguably as a thread in the suttas too. BMs weave it into Western romanticist-transcendentalist threads. Either way, I think the idea is very problematic, especially in the BM renditions.

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