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Writer, UBC Philosophy, Assoc Member Asian Studies & Psych Depts. Married to @beckettodd

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    1. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @jasonintrator and

      I mean the belief that you know the essence of your phenomenal state just by attending to it and thinking about it in terms of how it feels. I don't think such metacognitive activities disclose essences or are reliable guides by themselves to how things are

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    2. Philip Goff‏ @Philip_Goff Mar 30
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      Replying to @evantthompson @jasonintrator and

      Right, that's what I thought you meant. Indeed, that's what I think the anti-physicalist arguments hang on (from which Chalmers' 2D stuff is a bit of a distraction). Do you have any particular reason for thinking transparency is false?

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    3. Philip Goff‏ @Philip_Goff Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @evantthompson and

      All it really means is there's nothing more to the essence of a feeling than is known when you know how it feels. Doesn't that seems kind of self-evident? (I know that's not a great argument, and I do have IBE arguments for it, but off the record it does seem to me self-evident)

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    4. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @jasonintrator and

      It doesn't seem self-evident to me. Feelings are often perplexing, opaque, and I don't know what to say about them until I investigate them, see how they stand in relation to other feelings and thoughts, and learn about their biophysical and sociocultural configurations

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    5. Philip Goff‏ @Philip_Goff Mar 30
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      Replying to @evantthompson @jasonintrator and

      Do you think there's anything I know about the essence of a feeling when I attend to how it feels? Does Mary learn something about the essence of red experiences when she learns what it's like have one? I think a partial grasp of essence is enough to get the argument going.

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    6. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @jasonintrator and

      If you put the questions this way, then I would have to say no. I'm very doubtful about the concept of "essence" here. Also, I think the Mary case is just a weak intuition pump that shows nothing decisive.

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    7. Philip Goff‏ @Philip_Goff Mar 30
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      Replying to @evantthompson @jasonintrator and

      I think there are lots of necessary properties of experiences we know through introspection, e.g. what it's like to see orange is similar to what it's like to see red, & I find it hard to make sense of this if introspection reveals nothing of their essence.

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    8. Avoid Cliches Like The Plague‏ @SisyphusRedemed Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @evantthompson and

      Do we have to 'introspect' to know red and orange look similar?

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    9. Philip Goff‏ @Philip_Goff Mar 30
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      Replying to @SisyphusRedemed @evantthompson and

      I wasn't talking about red and orange but the character of the *experiences* or red and orange.

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    10. Avoid Cliches Like The Plague‏ @SisyphusRedemed Mar 30
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      Replying to @Philip_Goff @evantthompson and

      What, exactly, is the difference between 'the character of the experience of red' and just 'red'? What more is there to the color?

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      Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson Mar 30
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      Replying to @SisyphusRedemed @Philip_Goff and

      My view is that colours are relational properties constituted by animal perceivers and their environments. They're not reducible to either surface spectral reflectances or neuronal states. Or so I argued in my book, Colour Vision.https://evanthompson.me/colour-vision/ 

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      • Who? Me? Marcus Pal •Nate• Avoid Cliches Like The Plague vig the magnificent Bsod Nams 𖤐🔥Bryce🔥𖤐
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        2. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson Mar 30
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          Replying to @evantthompson @SisyphusRedemed and

          And while I'm here, let me take this occasion to announce that @anthonyjbruce and I are talking about my doing an updated, second edition of Colour Vision. Stay tuned for details.

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        3. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Mar 30
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          NICE! Would love to see that, Evan!

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