1/4 A provocative paper by Tim Bayne @anilkseth and Marcello Massimini. I'm not yet convinced and am inclined to think no awareness is an island, but the possibility deserves serious considerationhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166223619302164 …
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Replying to @evantthompson @anilkseth
Not having had time to read it in full, but... this is an interesting idea to explore in connection with certain meditative achievements (e.g. cessations)?
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I have a strong suspicion that cessation experiences preserve *minimal* embodiment (this is part of what lies behind claims about the ālayavijñāna and bhavaṅga, right?), but I would love to see anything any of you know on attempts to explore this!
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Yes, I suspect that is true. When I think about cessation I curse my ignorance of neuroscience (I toy with the idea of a second degree just to study the phenomenon).
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Replying to @AtaraxJim @anilkseth
The puzzle of the cessations for the ancient Buddhists was that the body stays alive while mental activity progressively attenuates but then restarts. So it's a case opposite to what the article is about: living body present, conscious mental activity absent.
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Also, it's not clear whether the ālayavijñāna and bhavaṅga are phenomenally accessible, though I suppose in principle they are to the fully awakened mind
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My thought was that since both are a kind of citta, or vijñāna, that they have to be kinds of minds...just minimally embodied ones...I’m trying to riff off stuff that
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @AtaraxJim and
I definitely agree on that. They're minds and embodied. (Bill Waldron's book is good on that). Whether they're phenomenal is a trickier question
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Replying to @evantthompson @AtaraxJim and
Agreed on all accounts, especially on the issue of Bill’s book being fantastic!
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @evantthompson and
"The Buddhist Unconscious"?
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Yes
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