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Writer, UBC Philosophy, Assoc Member Asian Studies & Psych Depts. Married to @beckettodd

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    1. Bsod Nams‏ @bsod_nams 4 Dec 2019
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      Bsod Nams Retweeted 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐

      I’ve been thinking about this, after a conversation between @evantthompson, @keithfrankish and @distributedcog. The analogy to stage magic in some Buddhist Yogacara texts does recommend illusionism about consciousness as the right account. (Cf. Dennett 2016) (1/3?)https://twitter.com/NeuroYogacara/status/1202032491529457665 …

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      𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐 @NeuroYogacara
      Replying to @AtaraxJim
      I’m game, and if it helps I read Yogācāra as Pan-illusionism
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      Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson 5 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @bsod_nams @keithfrankish

      The big difference is that, for Yogācāra, consciousness does have an intrinsic nature; it's the subject-object structure that's an illusion.

      2:42 PM - 5 Dec 2019
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        2. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 5 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @evantthompson @bsod_nams @keithfrankish

          Momentary experiences have the character of momentary experiences; but I’m unsure about the status of *consciousness*...that’s something we’ll need to argue about in person...

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        3. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson 5 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @NeuroYogacara @bsod_nams @keithfrankish

          OK, leave out the word "consciousness." vijñapti (roughly, "mind") moments have an intrinsic nature. The question then becomes are they phenomenal or just informational? Either way, they have independent being and essence.

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        1. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 5 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @evantthompson @bsod_nams

          It would be great to dig down into this and work out just how deep the difference is.

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        2. Making Up Minds‏ @minds_making 6 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @evantthompson @bsod_nams @keithfrankish

          Would the Yogācāra position be that the illusionism of Frankish/Dennett would need to be coupled with a kind of idealism in order to cohere?

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        3. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 6 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @minds_making @evantthompson and

          I don’t think there’s any reason to treat early Yogācāra as idealism...but there’s loads of dispute on that issue

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