The world includes our bodies, of course, and perhaps even some of our brain processes. I'm just denying awareness of the representational medium. (With exceptions for certain uses of mental imagery.) Does that make it better?
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Replying to @keithfrankish
Maybe...though I would probably say that the brain reflects the world, but because of the underlying fluctuations in its structure, it’s more like a dirty funhouse mirror does a shoddy job...how does that sound?
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara
By 'transparent' I don't mean 'veridical', 'undistorting'. There's *loads* of distortion in the medium, some adaptive, some just noise. But we're not aware of the distorting medium itself.
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Replying to @keithfrankish
Ah, here’s where things get interesting...do you think that we can become aware of the curvature of the funhouse mirror? And do we have good reason to do so?
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara
By inference, certainly. By careful, theoretically informed introspection, maybe.
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Replying to @keithfrankish
I'd offer lucid dreaming as a case where we may be aware of aspects of the medium, not just content (though given my misgivings about representational theories, I'm not too sanguine about the medium/content framework)
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Replying to @evantthompson @keithfrankish
And in a representation-lite or non-representational framework, I would say that becoming aware of the way that attention is shaping your understanding of the world gives you awareness of the medium, even if it doesn't tell you how to change it
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @keithfrankish
Yes! In phenomenological terms, this has to do with the noetic (mental act) side of the story, rather than the noematic (content) side (though the two are inseparable)
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Replying to @evantthompson @keithfrankish
One thing that I would love to chat with you about at some point are the phenomena that Allan Jones reports in the mall case, where his visual experience shifts from flat to florid...
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this is cool! who is Allan Jones? What's a florid visual experience/
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https://www.mqup.ca/beyond-vision-products-9780773552852.php … A moving and fascinating memoir
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This is the book that I mentioned to you last week, suggesting that you'd probably really be into it
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I remember! Should I read that or "THE OVERSTORY"? But I am deep in the weeds on the "MAD IN AMERICA" podcast
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