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    1. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 3 Dec 2019
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      I believe the mind is almost wholly transparent: it presents the world to us, not itself. It's all message, no medium.

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    2. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 3 Dec 2019
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      I don’t think I agree with you on this! I think this looks true if you focus on vision, but I think that things look really different outside of this one weird domain! (But I may be missing your point!)

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    3. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 3 Dec 2019
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      The world includes our bodies, of course, and perhaps even some of our brain processes. I'm just denying awareness of the representational medium. (With exceptions for certain uses of mental imagery.) Does that make it better?

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    4. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 3 Dec 2019
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      Maybe...though I would probably say that the brain reflects the world, but because of the underlying fluctuations in its structure, it’s more like a dirty funhouse mirror does a shoddy job...how does that sound?

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    5. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 3 Dec 2019
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      By 'transparent' I don't mean 'veridical', 'undistorting'. There's *loads* of distortion in the medium, some adaptive, some just noise. But we're not aware of the distorting medium itself.

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    6. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 3 Dec 2019
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      Ah, here’s where things get interesting...do you think that we can become aware of the curvature of the funhouse mirror? And do we have good reason to do so?

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    7. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 3 Dec 2019
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      By inference, certainly. By careful, theoretically informed introspection, maybe.

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      Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson 3 Dec 2019
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      I'd offer lucid dreaming as a case where we may be aware of aspects of the medium, not just content (though given my misgivings about representational theories, I'm not too sanguine about the medium/content framework)

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        2. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara 3 Dec 2019
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          And in a representation-lite or non-representational framework, I would say that becoming aware of the way that attention is shaping your understanding of the world gives you awareness of the medium, even if it doesn't tell you how to change it

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        3. Evan Thompson‏ @evantthompson 3 Dec 2019
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          Yes! In phenomenological terms, this has to do with the noetic (mental act) side of the story, rather than the noematic (content) side (though the two are inseparable)

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