When did Humberto Maturana give up the representational hypothesis that he helped to found? And is there some place where he explains his reason for jumping ship?
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@JohnProtevi or@evantthompson know? It's a really good question! I'd love to know!!2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
I think he’s still using a feature-detection based model through the mid-late 60s on the pigeon papers. But I don’t know his work that well after that
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @JohnProtevi
In the early 60s, after he return to Chile from MIT. See p. xii of his intro to Autopoiesis and Cognition
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He dropped the feature detection model when he started to work on colour vision in pigeons, in the 1960s, and when he realized the question about the organization of the living and the question about the biology of cognition were intertwined
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For Varela's account of his involvement in all this, see this article https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/%28SICI%291099-1735%28199609%2913%3A3 …<407%3A%3AAID-SRES100>http://3.0.CO %3B2-1
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Sorry bad link. Try thishttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/%28SICI%291099-1735%28199609%2913%3A3%3C407%3A%3AAID-SRES100%3E3.0.CO%3B2-1 …
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Thanks Evan!! I’m trying to think through the similarities and differences between the autopoietic approach and the biological models of various thirsts and hungers that I’m building from. My sense is that the gap is pretty small, but it’s an issue I wanna think through carefully
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Hey guys, what do you think about this paper that claims that enactivism have, in a certain way, a kind of representationalism ? did you read this?https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1059712313482953?journalCode=adba …
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It's good to see these kinds of discussions but my reading of the situation is rather different from this article. Alas, I can't possibly begin to explain that in Twitter
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Here’s my read: if you are committed to a represenrational paradigm, you’ll find ways to reread enactivist claims representationally. But in doing so, you’ll end up shifting to a different level of abstraction, undercutting what’s novel about enactivism
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I still think it may be possible to reconcile the core insights of enactivism with a representational paradigm; but doing so requires a theory unlike anything we’ve seen since Ashby realized that he couldn’t make the Homeostat workable beyond 4 interacting systems...
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