I don't think that the four noble truths would have been derived if those metaphysical assumptions weren't at work. That's a tough argument to make here on Twitter, so I'll just mic-drop this thesis without showing my work here. But pretty sure I can back it up.
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Some of these questions will likely be addressed in the upcoming book from
@evantthompson This read will be of interest to many in the#metadharma space (@Meaningness@_awbery_@OortCloudAtlas@cognazor etc) https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300226553/why-i-am-not-buddhist …1 reply 0 retweets 4 likesShow this thread -
I am locating Prof Thompson's book particularly as one in dialogue with
@wrighter Why Buddhism is True. I might be wrong in anticipating that, but that's my hunch. Of course Thompson is surveying a pretty big discourse and engaging with other kinds of conversations too.2 replies 0 retweets 2 likesShow this thread -
TL;DR - I'm a friend of the buddhadharma, pretty sure Thompson (who studied with Thurman and Varela) is too, and yet want to highlight that there are some pretty important metaphysical assumptions working in the deep core of Buddhism that are worth pointing out.
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Yes, as Vince argues, they do morph and shapeshift dramatically, (and as I pointed out some have attempted to boot a Buddhism with as few of those assumptions as possible), but I think that they are still operative and traceable back to axial-age subcontinent.
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A few things in response to you and
@VincentHorn: 1/I don't think the Buddha as presented in the Nikayas and Agamas is agnostic about the metaphysics of self; he makes pronouncements that entail there's no self (I discuss this in my new book)3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
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Looking forward to seeing the new book
@evantthompson. Curious how you make sense of the regular refusal of the sutryana Buddha to discuss metaphysics. That, to me, points to a orthopraxic orientation to metaphysics, which is quite a bit different than monotheistic orthodoxy.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
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Thanks, Vince. 1/ In my view, he refuses to discuss certain questions in certain contexts, but he makes metaphysical pronouncements (e.g., about the "All"); it's just that his stance toward them is empiricist (not his word of course).
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2/Reading the Buddha as somehow non-metaphysical strikes me as a distinctly modernist way of looking at him. It's modernist Buddhology (theology) but not historically and philosophically accurate (as I see it)
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So while your points make sense, in missing big chunks of the context, I feel like this a classic lost opportunity exchange, that I mostly associate with post-modernism (and esp twitter). Maybe we can rectify this with an in-depth discussion about your new book on
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I'd be very happy to discuss the book with you on @BuddhistGeeks
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