Anyone have good suggestions about where to look for the history of why cybernetics was eclipsed (at least for a minute) by what became classical cognitive science? maybe you have thoughts @joe_dewhurst?
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara
I don't think much about cybernetics as a label so this could be wrong, but is it tied up with the connectionism/perceptron/GOFAI funding battles of the 50s-70s?
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Replying to @firepile
Maybe! And if I had made that connection I woulda tagged you too! Any thoughts on what’s worth reading there?
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara
I'm trying to remember where I learned about it. It all happened after the Minsky book on Perceptrons. Does Dreyfus talk about it in What Computers Still Can't Do? I read a really good history of it at some point!
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Replying to @firepile
I remember it blew my fucking mind- I'd been taught propaganda basically by Fodor/McLaughlin in the early 90s, and later learned connectionism wasn't in principle incapable of certain computations, but single-layer networks were. And once Minsky published, no one would fund them.
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Replying to @firepile
I know that I’ve read this too!!! But have no idea where...
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @firepile
Wait...is it in here?!https://www.researchgate.net/publication/243665925_Making_a_mind_versus_modeling_the_brain_Artificial_intelligence_back_at_a_branchpoint …
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Replying to @NeuroYogacara @firepile
the dupuy book is very good, but see also this one for more recent coverage: https://www.amazon.com/Cybernetic-Brain-Sketches-Another-Future/dp/0226667901/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+cybernetic+brain&qid=1558032005&s=gateway&sr=8-1 …
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Replying to @evantthompson @firepile
The Dupuy book you refer to is The Mechanization of Mind, right? Great book - I wrote a review of it, comparing the rejection of the 'perceptron' to the rejection of the Bohm model in physics. An interesting case study of a 'biased theory choice'
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Yes, that's the book. That's an interesting comparison -- to the rejection of Bohm's model. Can you post a link to the review? Would like to read that.
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Replying to @evantthompson @firepile
Sure, Evan. It only came out in a refereed conference proceeding but I can send you the PDF from the proceeding's collection.
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Replying to @EyeOnThePitch @evantthompson
Can I get in on this, too? Sounds great.
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