because of stochastic transmission factors (the highly uneven distribution of R), the genetic derivation of dominant local non-VOC lineages doesn’t mean much.
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Replying to @eugyppius1 @RealJoelSmalley
What a load of rubbish. We didn't have a Spanish variant in the UK before last summer and then prior to Kent variant was dominant certainly here jn Wales.
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Replying to @cptn_retrospect @RealJoelSmalley
you think without travel to spain over the summer, there would’ve been no winter wave in the UK?
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Replying to @eugyppius1 @RealJoelSmalley
I did not say that. I said the variant in the Wales if not the rest of the UK changed as a consequence of the summer holidays.
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Replying to @cptn_retrospect @RealJoelSmalley
I will spell it out for you: Travel brought Spanish and other lineages to Wales. In the fall Corona season started, and cases surged. Because of accidental random factors, the imported lineages did most of the replicating.
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Other regions had the same fall surge with other lineages. Holidays don’t cause case spikes.
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Replying to @eugyppius1 @RealJoelSmalley
So a holiday in India doesn't import a more spreadable variant into the UK? Yes we were going to get rising infections after unlocking but international travel has now caused this to be a faster growth curve than would otherwise have been. You are simply wrong.
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Replying to @cptn_retrospect @RealJoelSmalley
the Indian variant is already in the UK, in fact it’s everywhere. if it has a transmissibility advantage, no amount of travel restrictions will stop it once it is introduced, or even meaningfully influence its trajectory. that ship has sailed.
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Replying to @eugyppius1 @RealJoelSmalley
Exactly. travel restrictions would have delayed the arrival of this strain whilst the vaccinations were completed. Travel restrictikns will stop the next imported variant taking a hold. How stupid are you?
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Replying to @cptn_retrospect @RealJoelSmalley
You understand that “International travel brings foreign pathogens” is a different thesis from “holidays cause case spikes”, right? The latter is a theory about what causes Corona cases to surge, i.e. increased contacts while travelling causing an increase in infections.
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Banning holidays won’t stop the introduction of new variants (because a great deal of international travel is not done by holiday makers), and you seem fine with domestic travelling, which suggests we don’t actually disagree, and you also don’t think holidays cause case spikes.
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