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    1. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      There's also no evidence that Monophysites ever pursued political aims. They opposed Heraclius, sure, but only when he interfered with their clerics or bishops, or tried to force them into Monoenergist /Monotheletist compromises.

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    2. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      Jones also points out that the Egyptian church was particularly hierarchical and inward-looking. The patriarch of Alexandria enjoyed the right to appoint all the bishops in his province.

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    3. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      It's easy to see how this would rapidly lead to doctrinal uniformity in the Egyptian church, and indeed it's *precisely Egypt* where Monophysitism is the most uniformly established.

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    4. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      In Syria, where ecclesiastical organisation is less cleanly vertical, there are a lot of Monophysites but there are plenty of Chalcedonians too.

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    5. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      You'll remember from prior thred, that the rapid fall of Egypt in particular is often put down, by historians, to Monophysite dissatisfaction with the Empire and Heraclius's persecution.

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    6. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      There's the idea the Monophysites opted into Arab rule. Jones points out that our best sources take a different view of the matter. They ascribe the loss of Egypt to the defeatism of Cyrus, Chalcedonian patriarch of Alexandria ...

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    7. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      ... and to the dynastic disputes that distracted the government after Heraclius's death. They also report that Egyptians did not welcome Arab rule and were in fact terrified of it. For what it's worth.

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    8. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      John of Nikiu, one near-contemporary chronicler, sees the Arab conquest as a judgment of God upon Heraclius for persecuting the orthodox Monophysites. A very typical ancient-world attitude.

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    9. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      In the long-run, however, it's true that Monophysites persist under Arab rule in Syria. In Asia Minor, which remains under eastern Roman control, they are gradually eliminated by relentless Chalcedonian imperial pressure.

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    10. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      If you were a Monophyist, Arab rule probably was a better deal, at least doctrinally/theologically.

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      eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

      In closing, I'd propose another way to look at this. The Monophysite position just seems more natural and intuitive to me, and was perhaps the old way of viewing the nature of the Word.

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        2. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

          The 2-nature orthodoxy promulgated Chalcedon – at least in those precise terms, put that starkly – was perhaps the true innovation. This would explain Chalcedonianism works primarily in the theologically unsophisticated western Empire (popes at Rome are not big theologians)...

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        3. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

          ... and in Constantinople, where the emperor be at. In the Eastern provinces, they go on believing as they always had. The archaic theologies remain at the fringes, far from power.

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        4. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

          Other early heresies, like the Donatists, also seem to work like this. The 'orthodox' position is the innovation or compromise, the 'heretics' are the older beliefs to be replaced.

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        5. eugyppius‏ @eugyppius1 Jun 3

          Anyway, that's the Monophysites. Next time, conspiracy theories.

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