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Digital, polling for Dems @insurrectionco. Ex EIC, NY Observer. NYU j-school prof. 'Bama native, Brooklynite. She/her. #BLM http://mynewbandis.substack

Anarchist Jurisdiction, NY
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    1. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

      Elizabeth Spiers Retweeted jon ben-menachem says keep wearing masks

      Tracey's take was horrible, and it's worth noting that the underlying sentiment isn't uncommon. It's a kind of misogyny that says the pain of women can only be ratified by men, and as such, any demonstration of it must be inherently manipulative.https://twitter.com/jbenmenachem/status/1356697788080398340 …

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      jon ben-menachem says keep wearing masks @jbenmenachem
      don't think anyone really cares about my thoughts on this, but the whole "women talking about their trauma is a manipulation tactic" category of takes should be taken out to the yard and put down
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      Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

      There are men who view their experience of the world as men as the central human experience (women are essentially NPCs you can have sex with) they don't even realize that they do, it's so heavily ingrained in their worldview.

      12:51 PM - 2 Feb 2021
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        2. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

          So a woman talking about her sexual assault must be *in some way* about them. They resent it. It's inconvenient. It makes them uncomfortable. They don't want to empathize. Tracey is particularly uncomfortable because he loathes AOC and resents that this is part of her humanity.

          6 replies 42 retweets 468 likes
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        3. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

          The tweet immediately reminded me of a guy I dated in my 20s who used to tell me approvingly that he liked that I had a lot of emotional control and rarely got upset about things. (Red flag, I know now.) My Stoic GirlfriendTM.

          4 replies 21 retweets 327 likes
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        4. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

          When, finally, inevitably, I got upset about something and burst into tears in front of him, he was ENRAGED. Like I had broken some unspoken contract we had that I would never show him that I felt pain or had been hurt by anything. It was inconvenient for him and he resented it.

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        5. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

          And he used the same language. I was "emotionally manipulating" him, by having the temerity to be sad in his presence. So my reaction to Tracey is the same as it was to that guy: this is not about YOU, you dick.

          6 replies 28 retweets 485 likes
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        6. Elizabeth Spiers‏Verified account @espiers Feb 2

          The pain of women is not an inconvenient plot line in the grand narrative of the lives of men. It does not exist to manipulate other people and talking about it is not a manipulative act.

          6 replies 203 retweets 859 likes
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        1. Seth Friedermann‏ @SethFriederman Feb 2
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          NPC's ♥️ I hope a lot of people got that reference.

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        1. John Laprise, PhD‏ @JohnLaprise Feb 2
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          Speaking of world, worth noting that USA is probably among less misogynistic cultures globally. In more misogynistic cultures, women are not NPCs but loot to collect/own :(

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        2. William H. Gaetz III‏ @PurityPony Feb 2
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          AOC was talking about being sexually assaulted and Michael Tracey found that offensive. Not unlike the Republican reaction to Joe Biden calling out racists and terrorists.

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        3. Jackie #FreeAssange McCaffrey‏ @jackiemccaffrey Feb 2
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          Michael didn't say he found it offensive. So why would you mis-characterize it?

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        1. Nexxo‏ @Nexxo00 Feb 2
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          We men who don't share their worldview refer to such men as "total assholes".

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