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    1. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      The average founder may have a good outcome, but we need to make the median under have a better outcome. How? Diversification VC firms can give upside in portfolio, or VC founders can become scouts, or they should engage in founder pooling activities. (Employees too, ideally)

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    2. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      To be sure, there are many bottlenecks besides risk—perceived career risk, fear of failure, mental health, to name a few—and even within economic risk, founder pooling is just one solution. Visas, health insurance, cheap housing, child care are others.https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg/status/1209013576347709440?s=20 …

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      Erik TorenbergOvjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg
      How could we remove bottlenecks holding ppl back from starting companies? IMO: - Visa issues, safety net (health/child care) - Enabling founder diversification (founder pooling/scouting) - ISAs - Communities that help ppl navigate ideas & co-founders (http://beondeck.com ) https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg/status/1208942662054604801 …
      5 proslijeđenih tweetova 84 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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    3. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      I think we should be doing everything possible we can to unlock more great founders. How many people are out there who, if they started a company (or a few companies), could create the next $1b company? 100s? 1000s? VCs far smarter than I disagree here on several grounds

      9 proslijeđenih tweetova 89 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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    4. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      #1 They'd prefer some barriers They think that "security" is inversely correlated w/ success. There is some truth to this (which is why we don't give big founder salaries) There is probably a Laffer-esque Curve for security & likelihood of success, but we're not close to it IMO

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    5. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      They think founder diversification will mean less "all-in" from the founders This thread best demonstrates the sentiment https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg/status/1123331923466522624?s=20 … I'm sympathetic to it, but don't think we're close to the point on this Laffer Curve—we can allow some diversification w/o sacrifice

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      Big misalignment between founders & VCs: VCs take dozens and dozens of shots on goal, founders only take one. Founders should band together & share upside. VCs should facilitate this.
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    6. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      #2 They don't buy that they're are great founders out there held back. If they need the support/encouragement to start, how will they scale? I'd equate it to Military: Many great soldiers "stumbled" into war & made it their mission once they got there, but they needed the push

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    7. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      In terms of there incentives, wouldn't you think VCs want more founders? Maybe not. They’ll only invest in a handful of cos a year, and those cos will hire 1000s of ppl — they want great talent to join them. Their advice is often “join a break out series A or Series B company”

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    8. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      #3 Founder Pooling has never worked. Why would it work now? Fair enough! I'd suggest it hasn't really been tried. Maybe it won't, but there are other ways to diversify. E.g. Angel/Scout investing hasn't seemed to hurt founders chances of success (cc @villageglobal)

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    9. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      In conclusion, IMO: - We're suffering from founder scarcity, partially evidenced by rising valuations - We should systematically remove bottlenecks to starting cos - We can incentivize more founders by making median founder outcome closer to avg & by removing economic friction

      6 replies 9 proslijeđenih tweetova 85 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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    10. Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      We also should decrease cultural friction to starting companies: - celebrate starting cos as a thing for ambitious ppl to do globally - see startup failures on resumes as badges of honor instead of blemishes - create communities to find co-founders & founder support(@beondeck)

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      Erik Torenberg‏Ovjeren akaunt @eriktorenberg 15. sij
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      Would love to hear thoughts & feedback. h/t @BurakYngn and @david__booth for conversations on the topic.

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        2. Balaji S. Srinivasan‏Ovjeren akaunt @balajis 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn @david__booth

          Great ideas. One issue with risk pooling is that you need a fairly select cohort for it to work. If all Thiel fellows or YC batchmates opted into it, it could work. But with ~100-200 founders in a batch it wouldn’t make them rich, it would just bound downside.

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        3. Balaji S. Srinivasan‏Ovjeren akaunt @balajis 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @balajis @eriktorenberg i sljedećem broju korisnika:

          For YC W15, there were ~100 cos Five years later Gitlab is biggest at ~$3B Let’s ASSUME power law applies & it is worth more than the rest combined Let’s also say 1% of Gitlab was divided among 100 founders So at 1bp each that’s $300k each (at most) over five years

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        2. Informema‏ @informema 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn @david__booth

          How many capable people haven’t seriously considered being a founder because of lack of familiarity or a supportive network? Not enough family or education networks have the mentorship capability to guide someone in that direction, as is common with law, medicine, engineering …

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        3. David Booth‏ @david__booth 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @informema @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn

          Which is why we’re building @beondeck :-)

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        2. Joe Emison‏ @JoeEmison 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn @david__booth

          Would be interesting to see if founder salaries are tracking upward. If so, would confirm your thoughts; if not, would cast doubt on them, since probably the one most significant thing you could do to bring more high quality founders in is to have higher acceptable salaries.

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        3. Joe Emison‏ @JoeEmison 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @JoeEmison @eriktorenberg i sljedećem broju korisnika:

          Both my cofounder and I are married with three kids, and had a number of VCs tell us that we needed to show our commitment by taking $0 as salary for at least a year before they would invest. M

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        2. Adam Coccari‏ @AdamCoccari 16. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn @david__booth

          I agree more can be done to give people who have the inclination to start new cos a better shot. One approach is what @GoBigtoSmall is trying to do: give people within big tech firms in Seattle the knowledge and playbook for validating their ideas and raising seed rounds

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        3. Adam Coccari‏ @AdamCoccari 16. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @AdamCoccari @eriktorenberg i sljedećem broju korisnika:

          Just seeing others around you leaving the security of a big company can be enough of a motivation to do the same. Even more important is seeing that the founders can end up in a good or better place even if the startup fails.

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        2. Michael Guimarin‏ @MikeGuimarin 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @eriktorenberg @BurakYngn @david__booth

          I think you’re exactly right. I haven’t founded a company because my most valuable resource, time, is not well spent getting the median return. And I’m not willing to take the downside bc family etc. and this is because to date my mission and this downside risk haven’t aligned.

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        3. Michael Guimarin‏ @MikeGuimarin 15. sij
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          Odgovor korisnicima @MikeGuimarin @eriktorenberg i sljedećem broju korisnika:

          That said I’m sitting on multiple billion $$ businesses. For me it’s access to mentors because what I want to do has not been done, and Boffans believe it can’t be done. But it can and will.

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