Christianity today is cathedral in which the bits have collapsed bits, but the asbestos remains — you can’t help but stand there and a breathe it in meanwhile you don’t even know you’re breathing it in The way you know this is true is so many people are hesitant to admit it
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Classic Christian paradox: Christianity has become global hegemonic belief system. Often explicitly rejected b/c imperialist ties. But the the very rejection of Christianity expresses how deeply Christianity has saturated and influences how people think
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And science? Science is doppelgängers of religion - constructed to be what religion is not...like most doppelgängers bears stamp of what it is rejecting Those who live and propagate this perspective are betraying their origins in protestant assumptions about catholicism
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The whole narrative in 19th century that there has been a war between religion and science, this is an expression of traditional protestant animus against catholicism except it’s now including protestantism itself within its targets
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Richard Dawkins is a Christian figure — he’s just now including Christianity in what he's condemning, and he’s replaced it with something called science At its core, humanists, marxists, all they’re doing is finding a way to justify Christian morality w/o Christian belief
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What led to secularism? Few things: Darwin killed God. Nietzche realized this (more on this in another thread) We didn't notice b/c we emerged from WW2 w a recalibration of what evil is We didn’t need devil anymore, we had Hitler We didn’t need hell anymore, we had Auschwitz
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The question is will that last Without theological roots for humanism — what justification do you have? If we lose that enormous heritage of Christian belief & practice & rituals that have sustained those beliefs for 2,000 years, can they be sustained? Can you pick a la carte?
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The fear is what happens when someone says "I don't share these humanist values and your insults don't harm me." What happens then? Perhaps this explains why social justice folks (Calvinists) are seeking institutionalization
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"God is dead, & we have killed him" When God is dead, how do we defend the values he used to justify? That’s what Nietzsche asked - and that’s what we don’t yet know. Much of intellectual culture in west over past 150 yrs has tried & failed to answer this too. We don't know.
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What we do know is that we're more Christian than ever, and if you're a liberal humanist, the Q isn't whether we should change--the Q is how do we remain as such? 1/ Can we have the bloom (universal humanism) without the roots (Christianity)? 2/ Can we invent new roots?
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P.S. @BretWeinstein on how science requires (at least some) faith:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS63OxfGXgU …
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Interesting discussion of this in Sapiens. IIRC Harari predicts our 'faith' in human dignity and equality will weaken in coming centuries because the secular justifications being offered in their defense are weak.
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Science requires faith I agree ramanujam iyer from India told maths us just a representative form of my female deity
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