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Eric Lawrence  🎻
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Impatient optimist. Dad. Author and speaker. Created Fiddler & SlickRun. PM @ MSFT '01-'12, and '18- on @microsoftedge. My words are my own. he/him

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    1. Troy Hunt‏Verified account @troyhunt Sep 24

      Troy Hunt Retweeted BankSA

      This is not how password managers work @banksa...https://twitter.com/BankSA/status/1042631452158902272 …

      Troy Hunt added,

      BankSA @BankSA
      Replying to @TheMuffinManFPS
      We don't have any working agreement w/ LastPass or any 3rd Party PW Managers & do not endorse or recommend the use of these tools to store log-in details. As such, we don't provide tech support for these issues & refer customers to vendor. ^Theo
      13 replies 90 retweets 376 likes
    2. Eric Lawrence  🎻‏ @ericlaw Sep 24
      Replying to @troyhunt @BankSA

      Oh? How do they work?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Adam Roach‏ @adambroach Sep 24
      Replying to @ericlaw @troyhunt @BankSA

      Generally, via client-side encryption that uses a password-derived key.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Eric Lawrence  🎻‏ @ericlaw Sep 24
      Replying to @adambroach @troyhunt @BankSA

      Even if you're encrypting things, password manager tools do store log-in details.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Joona Somerkivi‏ @JSomerstone Sep 24
      Replying to @ericlaw @adambroach and

      As they are designed to do. If you can remember a password; it is most likely not a very strong one.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Eric Lawrence  🎻‏ @ericlaw Sep 24
      Replying to @JSomerstone @adambroach and

      … leading back to my original question.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Joona Somerkivi‏ @JSomerstone Sep 24
      Replying to @ericlaw @adambroach and

      Adam explained it a little. They generate strong, unique passwords and store them securely. What @troyhunt is referring is that websites do not have to “support” them in any way, all they have to do is _not_ to prevent pasting into username/password fields as pwmanager fills them

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Eric Lawrence  🎻‏ @ericlaw Sep 24
      Replying to @JSomerstone @adambroach and

      "Support" is an ambiguous term.

      10:24 AM - 24 Sep 2018
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        2. Joona Somerkivi‏ @JSomerstone Sep 24
          Replying to @ericlaw @adambroach and

          Well, @BankSA is stating that they do not have agreement with @LastPass - which they do not even need. The writer lacks the knowledge how pwmanagers work. Hopefully he/she does now 😁

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Adam Roach‏ @adambroach Sep 24
          Replying to @ericlaw @JSomerstone and

          Let's be clear -- @banksa is taking bizarre and intentional steps to prevent the use of strong passwords. In addition to an indefensible 12-character limit, this code serves the sole purpose of thwarting password managers: https://ibanking.banksa.com.au/InternetBankingResources/ibank2/javascript/screen/logonCrypto/logonCrypto.js …

          2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
        3. Adam Roach‏ @adambroach Sep 24
          Replying to @adambroach @ericlaw and

          So it's not just "not support" -- it's "take exceptional steps to defeat." And there's really no way to get from one to the other. They're being user-hostile and explicitly promoting bad security practices. Either one should be enough to make customers move their money.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Adam Roach‏ @adambroach Sep 24
          Replying to @adambroach @ericlaw and

          Incidentally, if you haven't read the code I cite above, you should do so. It's laughable in many ways. For example, it uses AES to encrypt a replacement cipher😕, and includes the AES key and ciphertext in the calling page😳. It also forces your password to all lowercase. 😱

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        1. Ben Aveling‏ @BenAveling Sep 25
          Replying to @ericlaw @JSomerstone and

          Yeah. They don’t need to do anything extra. They just need to stop doing stupid shit that breaks things that would otherwise work.

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