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Sociologist @UMich. Soon: Thinking Like an Economist: How Efficiency Replaced Equality in US Public Policy @PrincetonUPress http://bit.ly/3yCyfT1 . Also @epoppbcsm.

Ann Arbor, MI
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    Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

    Beth Popp Berman Retweeted Robert Kelchen

    These kinds of papers make me crazy, a point to which I will return (or not!) when I am less rushed.https://twitter.com/rkelchen/status/1229356471940505600 …

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    Robert KelchenVerified account @rkelchen
    The Opportunity Insights team is out with a new NBER working paper that looks at the theoretically potential long-term reductions in income inequality of improving the college match process. https://www.nber.org/papers/w26748 
    3:42 AM - 17 Feb 2020
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      2. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        Okay, a more coherent response to this paper. I say this with respect for the intent of the research as well as admiration for the analytical effort behind this massive project.

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      3. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        The reason I find it fundamentally problematic is that it provides a false precision in thinking about a counterfactual world in which students’ matching with colleges takes place without regard to their family’s income.

        2 replies 11 retweets 97 likes
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      4. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        (That is, it’s a world in which middle-class students with high test scores are just as likely to attend very selective colleges as wealthy students with high test scores.)

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      5. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        The argument is that this would promote intergenerational income mobility substantially because more selective schools produce student with higher earnings, even conditional on background characteristics.

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      6. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        Indeed, the claim is that this would reduce intergenerational income persistence by about 25%. But to make such a claim, one has to entirely ignore colleges as organizations.

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      7. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        For both financial and status reasons, it is entirely unrealistic to imagine that colleges are going to replace large numbers of their wealthy, able-to-pay students with less-wealthy, financial-aid-requiring students.

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      8. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        Moreover, if they did, they would be fundamentally different institutions that would not necessarily provide middle-class students with access to high-paying jobs. The elite networks that make that happen would be gone!

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      9. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        So the entire premise is flawed, however impressive the underlying data, because of unrealistic assumptions about the types of institutions that colleges are.

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      10. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        Were this research that was unlikely to generate substantial policy conversation, it wouldn’t much matter.

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      11. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        But because this work is so high-profile, it disseminates a powerful narrative: that issues of inequality and declining social mobility do not require structural change or redistribution to be addressed effectively.

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      12. Beth Popp Berman‏ @epopppp 17 Feb 2020

        Instead, it suggests that inequality can be sufficiently addressed through technocratic (but in reality completely impossible) fixes – a message that is unthreatening to elites, but that is ultimately untrue. /fin

        8 replies 24 retweets 256 likes
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