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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 21

      emptywheel Retweeted Chuck Ross

      BREAKING: Republicans officially arguing FBI should have publicly exposed Trump's campaign ties to Russian spies and moved to arrest footing before election.https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/998610717581479936 …

      emptywheel added,

      Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
      August 2016 is the key month. The counterintelligence investigation opened July 31. The informant contacted Papadopoulos on Sept. 2. At some point, FBI decided against just asking Papadopoulos about his conversations about Clinton emails. They took the John le Carré route.
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    2. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Who said anything about arrests?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 21
      Replying to @art_bax

      WHat Chuck is asking for (but he doesn't understand this) is for FBI to have used far more aggressive techniques while Pap was officially tied to campaign.

      11:09 AM - 21 May 2018
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        2. jack‏ @axre91a May 21
          Replying to @emptywheel @art_bax

          Fbi: hey George papa, this is special agent strzok calling from the FBI. Papa: hey, what's up? Fbi: just letting you know that mifsud guy is bad news. Papa: oh ok. Am I in trouble? Fbi: absolutely not. You've nothing wrong. Just giving you a heads up on Russians Papa: k, thx

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        3. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
          Replying to @axre91a @emptywheel

          What's wrong with doing exactly that?

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          While I appreciate your effort to move the goalposts, I don't see anything particularly aggressive about an interview (which is all Chuck suggested), let alone anything more aggressive than surreptitiously monitoring someone under false pretenses.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Carla F. Bad‏ @ButteryMales May 21
          Replying to @art_bax @emptywheel

          Covert investigation is significantly less aggressive than an overt interview.

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        4. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
          Replying to @ButteryMales @emptywheel

          How is an interview aggressive at all?

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        5. Carla F. Bad‏ @ButteryMales May 21
          Replying to @art_bax @emptywheel

          Because it alerts them to the investigation. What happens when the press hears about it? Suddenly you've got stories about Trump personally meeting with Putin to get Hillary's emails, and the FBI is accused of interfering with the election because something something deep state.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
          Replying to @ButteryMales @emptywheel

          Why would interviewing Carter Page cause the press to lie?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Carla F. Bad‏ @ButteryMales May 21
          Replying to @art_bax @emptywheel

          You mean Papadopoulos. Page *was* interviewed, but you knew that. "A-ha! You said interviewing would alert them!" No, I said interviewing Papadopoulos in August would alert them, a time when the hacks were public, the leaks were flowing, and the investigation actually existed.

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        8. Carla F. Bad‏ @ButteryMales May 21
          Replying to @ButteryMales @art_bax @emptywheel

          Page was before all that, before the trips to Moscow, before Manafort was running the campaign, but *after* foreign intel warning that something spooky was afoot. Page's involvement in previous CI investigations (plural!) made him a good person to talk to while assessing that.

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        9. A Wreck of a Poet‏ @art_bax May 21
          Replying to @ButteryMales @emptywheel

          Why is it bad to alert someone that Russians are trying to compromise them?

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