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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19

      emptywheel Retweeted Adam Goldman

      One can take issue w/@ChuckRossDC's attempts to tie Halper to the dossier and his claim that a lifetime Republican asking Republicans questions is "surveillance," but give him his due for breaking this story.https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/997929140136431616 …

      emptywheel added,

      Adam GoldmanVerified account @adamgoldmanNYT
      A right-wing web site, the Daily Caller, first reported that both Page and Papadopoulos met during the campaign with an American professor at Cambridge University in England. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/was-there-really-spy-inside-trump-campaign-president-says-n875516 … via @nbcnews @KenDilanianNBC
      9 replies 11 retweets 35 likes
    2. Böhm Bawerk‏ @bohmbawerk1 May 19
      Replying to @emptywheel @TCleveland4Real @ChuckRossDC

      I don’t see how their political affiliations change anything lmao. Why would trump campaign officials meet with a democratic foreign policy expert?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
      Replying to @bohmbawerk1 @TCleveland4Real @ChuckRossDC

      Let's see, which would you prefer: 1) Having uniformed FBI Agents knock on Page and Papa's doors, making investigation public. 2) Having non-LE person FROM THE SAME PARTY do some discreet inquiries.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    4. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
      Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

      TIL when the feds sends a fed informant to spy on you, it's ok as long as the informant is a member of your political party. Even if you're running for president and the informant supports the other party's candidate! Also, it started pre-Downer/FBI contact. What was the basis?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
      Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

      One of the problems with @ChuckRossDC's story is he makes no mention of the publicly known March FBI concerns about Page.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
      Replying to @emptywheel @NormieDeGuerre and

      As to the informant, you can refer to the FBI DIOG--or any other CI case--and find a slew of informants. Usually, they're a lot sketchier than Halper. The FBI did NOT use a lot of techniques v Pap that were available to it at that level.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
      Replying to @emptywheel @NormieDeGuerre and

      But I keep asking GOPers: how would you have the FBI investigate the 4 suspected RU assets on Trump's campaign? WHat techniques would you approve?

      4:13 PM - 19 May 2018
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        2. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
          Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

          I'm not a GOPer and will still allow the techniques may have been valid. But story of probe origins have shifted so drastically since the beginning, the public absolutely needs to learn what was known by who, when? Were there even 4 suspects when the probe started? Based on what?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
          Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

          There were individual investigations (not sure what level) into Manafort, Page, and probably Flynn, based on their own actions before Trump. Why CI investigation into whether Trump's campaign conspired w/RU on hack-and-leak is a different Q, which is Papa issue.

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        4. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
          Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

          Possibly a different Q. If Papa was setup by Downer (and there's a variety of details that make that plausible), next question is where the info on Papa/Russia actually originated. Why was Mifsud meeting w/ Boris J in UK in 2017 if everyone knew he was a Putin asset? Lots of Qs

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
          Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

          If Downer set up Papa, why didn't ANYONE use that set up? The entire notion is crazy, frankly, bc it is utterly inconsistent with everything that came later.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
          Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

          High-level diplomat w/ intel connections, Hakluyt. Appears he requested meeting w/ Papa (why?), and then Papa who's attempting to engage in treason w/ Russia just blabs to Downer about it unprompted? Maybe. I'm waiting for more details on all of this.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
          Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

          Maybe Papa shouldn't have blabbed? No one has presented any evidence he was coerced.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
          Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

          No but we now have evidence another high-level guy w/ intel connections was going around inviting Trump people to chat about Russia and Hillary's emails. So, is it impossible that Downer was doing something similar?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
          Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

          WHat do you think spooks and diplomats do? OF COURSE they were meeting with people to try and learn stuff.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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