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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19

    emptywheel Retweeted Adam Goldman

    One can take issue w/@ChuckRossDC's attempts to tie Halper to the dossier and his claim that a lifetime Republican asking Republicans questions is "surveillance," but give him his due for breaking this story.https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/997929140136431616 …

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    Adam GoldmanVerified account @adamgoldmanNYT
    A right-wing web site, the Daily Caller, first reported that both Page and Papadopoulos met during the campaign with an American professor at Cambridge University in England. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/was-there-really-spy-inside-trump-campaign-president-says-n875516 … via @nbcnews @KenDilanianNBC
    2:46 PM - 19 May 2018
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    9 replies 11 retweets 35 likes
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      2. Böhm Bawerk‏ @bohmbawerk1 May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @TCleveland4Real @ChuckRossDC

        I don’t see how their political affiliations change anything lmao. Why would trump campaign officials meet with a democratic foreign policy expert?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @bohmbawerk1 @TCleveland4Real @ChuckRossDC

        Let's see, which would you prefer: 1) Having uniformed FBI Agents knock on Page and Papa's doors, making investigation public. 2) Having non-LE person FROM THE SAME PARTY do some discreet inquiries.

        3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

        TIL when the feds sends a fed informant to spy on you, it's ok as long as the informant is a member of your political party. Even if you're running for president and the informant supports the other party's candidate! Also, it started pre-Downer/FBI contact. What was the basis?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

        One of the problems with @ChuckRossDC's story is he makes no mention of the publicly known March FBI concerns about Page.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @NormieDeGuerre and

        As to the informant, you can refer to the FBI DIOG--or any other CI case--and find a slew of informants. Usually, they're a lot sketchier than Halper. The FBI did NOT use a lot of techniques v Pap that were available to it at that level.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @NormieDeGuerre and

        But I keep asking GOPers: how would you have the FBI investigate the 4 suspected RU assets on Trump's campaign? WHat techniques would you approve?

        1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
      8. gringx‏ @NormieDeGuerre May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @bohmbawerk1 and

        I'm not a GOPer and will still allow the techniques may have been valid. But story of probe origins have shifted so drastically since the beginning, the public absolutely needs to learn what was known by who, when? Were there even 4 suspects when the probe started? Based on what?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @NormieDeGuerre @bohmbawerk1 and

        There were individual investigations (not sure what level) into Manafort, Page, and probably Flynn, based on their own actions before Trump. Why CI investigation into whether Trump's campaign conspired w/RU on hack-and-leak is a different Q, which is Papa issue.

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      2. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom May 21
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        He leaked his name....

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 21
        Replying to @devdotcom @ChuckRossDC

        Chuck didn't "leak" anything. And there's no public evidence his stories were results of leaks to him. Nor would it have to be. Don't attack journalism you don't like. Leave that to Trump.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom May 21
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        Definitely not attacking journalism. I have acknowledge that Chuck is a good investigative reporter....

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom May 21
        Replying to @devdotcom @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        I saw that NYT & WaPo declined to release the name in their articles. Chuck's article was the first one that I read which alleged that guy was the informant. I thought it was unprofessional.....

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 21
        Replying to @devdotcom @ChuckRossDC

        If he sourced it to people who believed he was an informant, then no it's not.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom May 21
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        The FBI said it could endanger the man's life and create other problems for ongoing investigations. IMO, it was irresponsible to publish

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. local jack please ban the nazis person‏ @pleizar May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        not really sure how getting nunes to leak you stuff is something to be impressed by

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 19
        Replying to @pleizar @ChuckRossDC

        I think this story came from the aides.

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. local jack please ban the nazis person‏ @pleizar May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        either way my read on it is "collaborator in malfeasance of government officials" much moreso than "impressive shoe-leather investigative reporting"

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. End of conversation
      1. Mike Hersch‏ @Anonymo11002849 May 20
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        I don’t know that @ChuckRossDC merits any credit here. He’s just a vessel for Nunes et al - fed a story to serve political ends.

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      1. Brad Casali‏ @btc2008 May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        Can you shellack Chuck again on Twitter because that was pretty entertaining.

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      1. no-respect‏ @CapulettiM May 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

        He puts both the Limited and the Hang in Limited Hang Out.

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